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David Icke on the Russell Brand show

Meltingpot said:
Apology accepted. Yeah, but it's typical of this place. You guys play the player time after time
rather than the ball.

Don't like what someone's saying? Right, flame the bastard.
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Well make your points then? I'm not saying contentless flaming doesn't happen but quite al ot of the time it's a response by someone who seems to believe their view deserves respect simply because it's their view. It doesn't.
 
fogbat said:
This.


But it's so much easier if we can blame all the ills on the world of one group of people.

How about the Jews? They've had it easy recently...
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exactly. it stops people having to think critically about anything.
 
Meltingpot said:
Then why do oil and other mineral extraction companies pay him thousands to assist in prospecting? Could be they know something you don't.
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That's interesting.

Do you have any links to back that up?
 
frogwoman said:
Aww mate it's urban - that's the way this forum is ... there are plenty of threads which don't have flaming and abuse on them if you look for them :)
can't be called an urbanite unless you've been in a proper argument and been called a surplus fucker or a cunt once or twice can you :D
I've been called worse things on here, i still haven't left yet ... have a break if its getting too much for ya :) xx
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I know, but what it does is enforce conformity where everyone is reluctant to step out of line in case they get flamed off the board.
 
mikeinworthing said:
That's interesting.

Do you have any links to back that up?
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I saw it a while ago, in a magazine article. Can't be assed to look it up now.
 
beesonthewhatnow said:
And he deserved every single bit of it.

He's a lying, cheating, money making fraud.
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What about the spoon bending though? I don't know about anything else he's done tbh. :confused:
 
Meltingpot said:
I saw it a while ago, in a magazine article. Can't be assed to look it up now.
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If the article exists it only shows one of two things:

a) That Geller simply lied about it

or

b) that people that run oil companies are easilly fooled


Both being equally plausible.

Either way, he's still a fraud.
 
moomoo said:
What about the spoon bending though? I don't know about anything else he's done tbh. :confused:
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Spoon bending is a very old trick, and it's a piece of piss to do.

You either don't actually bend it at all, and use camera/viewer angles to make it look like you have, or you simply bend it by force when performing a visual distraction.
 
Meltingpot said:
I saw it a while ago, in a magazine article. Can't be assed to look it up now.
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And you believe everything you read?

Well, sorry, but people that post what seems to be unbelievable ‘facts’, with nothing to back them up, will get flamed on urban, simple as.

Just ask the poster formerly known as tobyjug. :D
 
moomoo said:
What about the spoon bending though? I don't know about anything else he's done tbh. :confused:
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Youtube is your friend. Awash with clips that show him as a lying, cheating, fraud.
 
beesonthewhatnow said:
Spoon bending is a very old trick, and it's a piece of piss to do.

You either don't actually bend it at all, and use camera/viewer angles to make it look like you have, or you simply bend it by force when performing a visual distraction.
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No bees.

Uri Geller bent them with his mind. I know, I've seen him. :cool:




And before you get any ideas, no you are not going to use my spoons to prove me wrong. :p
 
Barking_Mad said:
Capitalist companies did finance Hitler though.
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Er, I know. I was making fun of the way Jazz brought that out as some great suprise when it's part of the GCSE history sylbus.
 
beesonthewhatnow said:
If the article exists it only shows one of two things:

a) That Geller simply lied about it
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Possible, I suppose.

beesonthewhatnow said:
or

b) that people that run oil companies are easilly fooled

Both being equally plausible.
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Why? If he gets paid the sort of money that enables him to run the kind of lifestyle he has
(helicopter and all), the shareholders of the company would have to be consulted.

beesonthewhatnow said:
Either way, he's still a fraud.
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Case unproven as far as I am concerned.
 
moomoo said:
No bees.

Uri Geller bent them with his mind. I know, I've seen him. :cool:




And before you get any ideas, no you are not going to use my spoons to prove me wrong. :p
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But isn't there a difference between seeing him bend the spoon apparantly without his hands and seeing him bend the spoon with his mind?
 
nosos said:
Capitalists financed Hitler to stave off a communist revolution in Germany?

Did you do GSCE history too, Jazz? :D
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There were actually quite a few Jews who gave money to the Nazis or voted for them, because they thought that Hitler's anti-semitism was just to win votes and they preferred the idea of living under a fascist government (fascism in Italy didn't include any racist elements to it until 1936) than a communist one, which would include having to change their whole way of life, have their businesses and shops collectivised, and probably give up a large amount of their property and money, in a way which most people in Germany at that time weren't prepared for, because of the horrors of the depression etc. They didn't realise that Hitler's anti-semitism was actually "real" - there were a number of different parties who used similar rhetoric at that time and had done throughout the 1920s and early 30s. Also many Germans who had lost money during the depression viewed Hitler as their "last hope" even if they didn't actually like him, because they liked the idea of living under a communist regime even less and wanted to return to somewhat of a normal standard of living.
Most Nazi election propaganda played down their anti-semitism until it was too late. If you asked the early members of the nazis about their beliefs, a lot of them would have probably said that by Jews trhey didn't mean "real Jews" but the idea of them ... someone who "behaved like a Jew" accumulating wealth, etc, and wouldn't have considered themselves anti-semitic.
It's not proof of a Jewish conspiracy ffs and it doesn't prove that "Jewish bankers gave money to Hitler".
 
nosos said:
But isn't there a difference between seeing him bend the spoon apparantly without his hands and seeing him bend the spoon with his mind?
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Fuck knows. I'm doing my first ever trolling, going well do you think? :confused:



I just wish I'd picked a more interesting subject.........
 
Barking_Mad said:
Capitalist companies did finance Hitler though.
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Loads of people financed him because they believed at the time it was in their interests to do so. They were more concerned about Germany's economic recovery (which in the beginning benefitted most Germans, including some Jews) than the Jews who were a relatively small (and unpopular) percentage of Germany's population.

A lot of Jews also voted for Hitler because they believed it was a socially desirable thing to do and wanted to become more integrated into German society, and try and prove they were German. It sounds absurd but it is actually true. Some (not all, or even most) of the very secular Jews didn't even consider themselves Jewish, probably agreed with a lot of Nazi policies, and didn't see why they would be at risk.
 
Meltingpot said:
Why? If he gets paid the sort of money that enables him to run the kind of lifestyle he has
(helicopter and all), the shareholders of the company would have to be consulted.
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Are you suggesting the only way Geller could afford his lifestyle is through dowsing for oil? :D

If that's the case then you would think it would be reported somewhere other than in a half remembered magazine.

This reminds me of the way so many 'psychics' claim they have been brought in by the police to find bodies. It always, and I mean ALWAYS turns out to be totally untrue.
 
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