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David Icke: Was he right? C5 11pm (boxing day)

The longer I have been reading this sprawling thread, the more I get a glimmer of the feeling I had while on mushrooms in Amsterdam.

Reality is all in the head, ultimately.

But I still don't buy the "reptile" thing!
 
holden said:
The longer I have been reading this sprawling thread, the more I get a glimmer of the feeling I had while on mushrooms in Amsterdam.

Reality is all in the head, ultimately.


It makes perfect sense when you think about it imo, the world that you 'see' around you isnt the world itself, it's your own perception of the world, which is (presumably) being generated by your brain. If David Icke sees shapeshifting lizards in his perception of the world, then that is his truth, it is real to him and his words and actions are motivated by that truth
 
Here's a picture, claimed to be of the 'real' Saddam, from here - makes for an interesting comparison of the teeth with the man on trial.

realsaddam1.jpg


ACF1CA3.jpg
 
What are you, a dentist? Do you really think that the ability to use Google image search is going to allow you to unveil a grand conspiracy of Saddam-swapping?
 
pk said:
The teeth in the two largest pics look identical to me.

:confused:
I'll be honest - at first I thought they look pretty different, but having looked for a while I don't think I could say that.
 
Jazzz said:
Here's a picture, claimed to be of the 'real' Saddam, from here - makes for an interesting comparison of the teeth with the man on trial.
Yeah.

They're the same, only not so well looked after.

But then that might have something to do with the fact that he'd been on the run and hiding in holes in the ground. I don't imagine his electric toothbrush would work there.
 
But I'm not saying they look the same. And is the tooth on Saddam's left-most side clearly present in the upper pic there in the bottom one?

It's a shame you find it hilarious when someone is honest mikeinworthing. :rolleyes:
 
Jazzz said:
But I'm not saying they look the same. And is the tooth on Saddam's left-most side clearly present in the upper pic there in the bottom one?
So is your 'evidence' for your astonishing, wild claim of the incredible, ever-switching Saddam's teeth nothing more than this collection of tiny photos (easily edited, natch) from a known liar's web site?

And how come those close to him - you know those folks whose families he'd killed - didn't notice his mobile toothypeg configuration?
 
Jazzz said:
It could have chipped/worn away though I'll admit.
Look! A truthseeker in reverse! :D

Instead of starting off by claiming wild, bonkers assertions to be absolute fact, why the fuck can't you do a bit of basic sane research first before polluting these boards with your knee-jerk conspiraloon conclusions?
 
Jazzz said:
It's a shame you find it hilarious when someone is honest mikeinworthing. :rolleyes:

Oh please don’t start playing the victim.:rolleyes:

When I pointed out Al Jazeera, a respected middle-east based news channel, widely considered by many to be anti-American/the west, which carries real stories properly researched with genuine moving pictures and commentary, wasn't supporting your wild claims - you took the piss.

mikeinworthing said:
I’ve been watching Al Jazeera a fair bit recently......even they are not claiming there’s any question over the fact that it was Saddam that was hang

Jazzz said:
….. let's just say... "It must be true, after all, everyone on the telly says so". Wonder what Orwell, or Shaw would make of that.

Yet you posted up still photos, from unknown sources, which could easily have been photo-shopped to back-up your fruitloop conspiraloon theory and expect us to roll over and accept it. Only to than retract the ridiculous claims a couple of hours later and yet you don’t expect people to laugh at you?:confused:

Personally if I spent my life posting such ridiculous bollocks all over the interweb, I would feel upset if people didn’t laugh at me! :D
 
mikeinworthing said:
Yet you posted up still photos, from unknown sources, which could easily have been photo-shopped to back-up your fruitloop conspiraloon theory and expect us to roll over and accept it.
Oh, he did better than that!

He posted up pictures from Joe "No Facts!" Vialls, a known conspiracy liar and total nutcase. He's the fucking sick cunt who persuaded Jazzz that the child killing Ian Huntley was in fact the poor little victim of a US conspiracy.
 
editor said:
.....He's the fucking sick cunt who persuaded Jazzz that the child killing Ian Huntley was in fact the poor little victim of a US conspiracy.

You are joking surely?

I missed that!

* note to myself – keep an eye of all Jazzz’s future posts – he’s priceless *
:D
 
ok well fair point MIW, I'll try not to take the piss. New Year's Resolution. And maybe they did hang the real Saddam (though they certainly staged his capture). I'm not sure, I'm man enough to admit it when I may have been wrong about something.

You don't have to have to go far before you will find editor banging on about Ian Huntley.
 
Jazzz said:
ok well fair point MIW, I'll try not to take the piss. New Year's Resolution. And maybe they did hang the real Saddam (though they certainly staged his capture).
Yep, it's yet another Jazzz fuck up.

Why can't you do some basic research using credible sources first before making your idiotic claims? Why can't you show the posters here that basic courtesy?

The sad thing is that if people here didn't constantly go out of their way to rip apart your piss weak claims, others might believe them to be true, and then the bullshit spreads and becomes accepted as fact, just like it does on those nutjob fruitloop sites.
 
mikeinworthing said:
You are joking surely?

I missed that!

* note to myself – keep an eye of all Jazzz’s future posts – he’s priceless *
:D
You missed it because it was SEVERAL years ago!
 
editor said:
Yep, it's yet another Jazzz fuck up.

Why can't you do some basic research using credible sources first before making your idiotic claims? Why can't you show the posters here that basic courtesy?

The sad thing is that if people here didn't constantly go out of their way to rip apart your piss weak claims, others might believe them to be true, and then the bullshit spreads and becomes accepted as fact, just like it does on those nutjob fruitloop sites.
Well actually, no, I have an open mind about Saddam. I don't trust the USG one inch here, and if there's evidence that has made me think they are same, well I just provided it. It is a shame you have such a polemic mentality.
 
Oh, we had old threads about that. Forgive me for not going around the houses again there. This is interesting

Don't think that the alternative media don't know the truth. Enough of the media know the truth after the world's top reporters showed up in Baghdad for the initial indictment appearance of 'Saddam' only to find the U.S. military was providing the sole live feed from the 'courtroom' -video only, with no audio. The seperate audio was provided to the journalists later. Ehem.

Apparently, the guy(computer) who does the Saddam audio, is not the same guy who does the video/photo impersonations. It's easy to plastic-up a double, but a face and voice double would be a little hard to find.

Curious huh? Why the need to release live video without audio?

http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/05/liar-liar-saddams-pants-on-fire.html
 
editor said:
Why can't you do some basic research using credible sources first before making your idiotic claims? Why can't you show the posters here that basic courtesy?

The sad thing is that if people here didn't constantly go out of their way to rip apart your piss weak claims, others might believe them to be true, and then the bullshit spreads and becomes accepted as fact, just like it does on those nutjob fruitloop sites.
I'm curious to know how you distinguish between a reliable and unreliable source?
 
Pavlik said:
I'm curious to know how you distinguish between a reliable and unreliable source?

A good starting point for unreliable sources would be any website where it’s been claimed that ‘Ian Huntley was in fact the poor little victim of a US conspiracy’.

Whereas Al Jazeera could be a fairly reliable source of information on the Middle East.
 
It's true Jazzz.

None of your theories have ever held water, and you've been trying to persuade people with your ideas since 2002.

The reason people still mention Huntley is because you haven't learned from that experience.

You still post up evidence without checking it first, from Joe Vialls for fucks sake.

Then only after you've stated or implied that everyone dismissing it must be sheeple and non-thinking people who don't want to hear the truth - then several pages into the debate you say something like -

"I'll be honest - at first I thought they look pretty different, but having looked for a while I don't think I could say that."

If you spent the time and energy on real issues instead of the mad ramblings of a old and dead fraud like Joe Vialls, you might achieve something.

9/11 truth urban my arse.
 
mikeinworthing said:
A good starting point for unreliable sources would be any website where it’s been claimed that ‘Ian Huntley was in fact the poor little victim of a US conspiracy’.

Whereas Al Jazeera could be a fairly reliable source of information on the Middle East.
Do any of you believe what the government tells you?
 
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