Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
Assassin's generally aren't seen.
"Did two hired assassins snatch weapons inspector David Kelly?"
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Barking_Mad
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editor said:
mock outrage alert
editor said:
Oh settle down lad, your outrage is pathetic, really! She's hardly your bloody wife or sister now is she.
Now, just look here lad, your emotions are creating wrongful interpretations of my posts. I am in no way 'accusing his widow of being a liar'!!! It's fuckin amazing watching you come up with your versions of what posters say.
You asked about her speaking the 'absolute truth'. I said no. That is saying she did not speak the 'absolute truth'... can you really not see the difference between not speaking the 'absolute truth' and being a 'liar'???
Now then, just give us all those facts you've got up your sleeve, and then all this debate is shut down. I mean, with facts how can we come up with opinions that disagree?? Facts are facts, so c'mon, give them to us man.
Barking_Mad said:
I think editor is a past master at this outrage malarky. But then again he presumes to speak for so many others... including it would seem mrs kelly, who he feels so close to that he is offended on her behalf whenever anyone questions the truth of her statement that her husband killed himself.
It's also so damned obvious why she might say what she said if kelly was killed by the state. So i'd guess that editor has decided categorically that kelly committed suicide, coz that is the only explanation why he gets offended over remarks about kelly's wife perhaps not telling the full picture of events.
But that fits, he told us he has the facts.
But they're not very forthcoming despite a few requests on my part.
editor
hiraethified
No. I really do find it fucking outrageous that this clown can call a woman who has lost her husband under tragic circumstances a liar based on nothing more than his love for conspiraloonery, and then there's the little matter of potential legal action aganst the boards for publishing such fact-free tripe.Barking_Mad said:
But thanks for your vitally useful input.
editor
hiraethified
Yes you are. You got pwned so badly last night with your bizarre attempts to disown your own words you had to run away, and I've no idea why you think you can get away with it this time.fela fan said:
Your meaning was clear. You don't believe her statement is truthful. You believe Mrs Kelly is a liar.
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
its just a thread on the internet. Step back and chill out - if it's asking for legal action then surely remove it, dont talk about it. (?)
I find them amusing, not so much those backing conspiracies but those who claim they are such a load of codswollop that they spend 10-20-30 pages discussing it and name calling.
Some folks just cant help themselves it seems.
(shrugs)
I find them amusing, not so much those backing conspiracies but those who claim they are such a load of codswollop that they spend 10-20-30 pages discussing it and name calling.
Some folks just cant help themselves it seems.
(shrugs)
London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
Forum speciality.Barking_Mad said:
Second only to the Urban Offendaratiri as a board-wide characteristic.
Standard Urban debate:
"You're engaging in mock outrage again"
"I'm offended"
"No, I'm offened"
"No, you're mock outraged"
"No, I'm outraged and offended"
"You're a cunt"
"No, you're a cunt"
London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
Opps, forgot the mock 'sorry'.
editor
hiraethified
What the fuck are you on about?fela fan said:
Anyway, back on topic. Here's your words accusing Mrs Kelly of being a liar.
Editor: Do you you believe Mrs Kelly told the absolute truth when she said that she was satisfied that her husband's death was suicide YES/NO?
fela fan: Of course she didn't man.
How do you know she didn't tell the truth, please? What evidence do you have that she is lying? Please support this claim or withdraw it.
editor said:
So, in editor's world, the negation of the 'absolute truth' is 'liar'. Now we see clearly how you can twist what people say.
And you ask what the fuck am i on about. Well, earlier in the thread you said 'i've got the facts'. I want you to tell the forum what the facts are. I want to know the facts. You've got them, you said so.
So, WHAT ARE THE FACTS MAN?
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
fela fan said:
You are one charmless little intellectual runt.
Dr. Kelly's widow made a public statement that said she was satisfied that her husband death was a suicide.
Now do you have any evidence that she was threatened into making a false statement? You're making the claim, the onus is on you to support it. You're implying the woman is a liar and coward. Be a man for change. Put up or shut up.
Screaming "WHAT ARE THE FACTS MAN" makes you look like an obnoxious prat who doesn't have a point, but hates to look like he loosing yet another internet argument, because you've been exposed as a clueless muppet.
Again.
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
Blimey. Surprised that this is still going but the above question is pretty central and unavoidable to the whole debate.8den said:
I would also like to repeat that, whilst questions may remain about the exact circumstances of Kelly's death, especially when considered to his central role in justifying the ill-conceived invasion of another country, the original article containing extracts from Mr Baker's book (available from all good stores etc etc) was completely unsubstantiated tosh, with a sprinkling of arrant nonsense on top, that serves to confuse the truth, rather than clarify. imvho.
The QC, on behalf of the Kelly family read a prepared statement, this document was not placed into the public domain as a signed statement by Mrs Kelly..... totally different from Mrs Kelly making a statement.
The growing unrest with the Hutton inquiry and the difference between the observations by the paramedic, teh photographs showing the body having been moved, specialists concern over the lack of investigative procedures.
The cut and paste of Dr Peter Tyrer statement was an opinion from interviewing colleagues and people who knew Dr Kelly, not a personal interview with the deceased. Clinical flawed, no long term observation and lacking the required professional procedures.
The growing unrest with the Hutton inquiry and the difference between the observations by the paramedic, teh photographs showing the body having been moved, specialists concern over the lack of investigative procedures.
The cut and paste of Dr Peter Tyrer statement was an opinion from interviewing colleagues and people who knew Dr Kelly, not a personal interview with the deceased. Clinical flawed, no long term observation and lacking the required professional procedures.
8den said:
Well thank god that urban75 has got you to come by and sort out this terrible malady. Where would the webite be without your policing of the paranoid contributors? Gee, maybe it might even crash, so serious is the problem. Well done lad.
Editor, give the man a biscuit. He deserves it.
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
fela fan said:
Gosh yes, being patronised by you has put me in my place.
Oh no wait, you getting exposed as a delusional tosser over and over again gazumps that, and you look like someone desperately trying to find some kind of pyrrhic victory in yet another conspiraloon thread.
Again.
GOT ANY FACTS, MAN?
With the utmost respect, the staement Dr. Kelly's widow made a public statement that said she was satisfied that her husband death was a suicide.
Clearly describes Dr Kelly's widow making a public statement, to say this is a terminological inexactitude and as such, did not happen.
To display a sense of exasperation over a blatantly incorrect statement and then resort to vernacular of the street in an attempt to gain some sort of credibility is total folly on your part.
You complete failure to comprehend that the judgement on Lord Hutton's part was the decision of One) A human being and as such open to all the normal fragilities Two) The understanding and contemplation was only on the evidence presented.
We have had the details of how this type of inquiry should and can be controlled by the Judge. If the list of evidence does not include or detail further evidence, if his staff are not aware or fail to fully comply with the brief for the inquiry... the list goes on but to believe that such findings are completely and utterly without failing or reach a decision that should not and cannot be challenged is on a par in possible belief in adult fairy tales. i.e., the easter bunny, Santa Claus, the tooth fairy etc.
You choose to ignore the ongoing investigation by the specialist who still challenge the evidence and the decision by Lord Hutton, your cry for facts but you ignore various web sites but are only too quick to quote from any and all documents to suit yourself.
Clearly describes Dr Kelly's widow making a public statement, to say this is a terminological inexactitude and as such, did not happen.
To display a sense of exasperation over a blatantly incorrect statement and then resort to vernacular of the street in an attempt to gain some sort of credibility is total folly on your part.
You complete failure to comprehend that the judgement on Lord Hutton's part was the decision of One) A human being and as such open to all the normal fragilities Two) The understanding and contemplation was only on the evidence presented.
We have had the details of how this type of inquiry should and can be controlled by the Judge. If the list of evidence does not include or detail further evidence, if his staff are not aware or fail to fully comply with the brief for the inquiry... the list goes on but to believe that such findings are completely and utterly without failing or reach a decision that should not and cannot be challenged is on a par in possible belief in adult fairy tales. i.e., the easter bunny, Santa Claus, the tooth fairy etc.
You choose to ignore the ongoing investigation by the specialist who still challenge the evidence and the decision by Lord Hutton, your cry for facts but you ignore various web sites but are only too quick to quote from any and all documents to suit yourself.
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