David Icke: Was he right? C5 11pm (boxing day)

[bouncer_the_dog]

off topic but...

So was that saddam they killed yesterday?

Duh!

No...

Obviously

 

[43mhz]

Is his lizards belief metaphorical?

Lizards = cold-blooded

That's the way I interpret it..

 

[Baron Samedi]

ahem.

For those who are interested in watching the documentary, instead of throwing crap around, here's a link

David Icke - was he right?

At least watch the first 1/2 hour and tell me his views aren't similar to a lot of urbanites

 

[editor]

At least watch the first 1/2 hour and tell me his views aren't similar to a lot of urbanites

Why should anyone bother to waste time watching the ramblings of Icke?

It's not like he's important or anything.

 

[Jazzz]

off topic but...

So was that saddam they killed yesterday?

I don't think so, no.

 

[Pavlik]

It's not like he's important or anything.

It's funny but I often think the same thing about you.

 

[Yossarian]

I don't think so, no.

Is the real Saddam Hussein holed up on that secret island with Uday, Qusay, the passengers of those planes that got replaced with remote-controlled aircraft on 9/11, Lord Lucan, Shergar, and the shadowy leaders of the Illuminati?

It’s a damn shame that island hideout is so shrouded in mystery, ‘coz if they got some cameras on there it’d beat the fuck out of Celebrity Big Brother…

 

[editor]

It's funny but I often think the same thing about you.

I haven't declared myself to be important, the Son Of God, or the knower of 'the truth' so why the fuck should I give a shit what a mouthy, no-mark oik like you thinks?

 

[editor]

I don't think so, no.

Really? So how come no one else in Iraq seems to have noticed?

And that 'patsy' must have been awfully dedicated to Saddam. Or was the execution a fake too?

 

[Jazzz]

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[mikeinworthing]

I don't think so, no.

PMSL

So, don’t you think his ‘tribe’ may have noticed something amiss when they buried him?

 

[editor]

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Come on man, spit it out!
No need to be coy!

Show us your amazing evidence that Saddam's family, friends and colleagues, his enemies, all of Iraq, the US, the UK and just about everyone else in the world have all been fooled by this amazing deception, but clever ol' Jazzz knows what really happened!

 

[Jazzz]

PMSL

So, don’t you think his ‘tribe’ may have noticed something amiss when they buried him?

Not from the body, no. Saddam's doubles were the best going, and they had plastic surgery to make them as close as possible. Indeed one used to play the role of the ex-CIA man in diplomatic functions. As it is, we have the word of the US military that a DNA test matched, and call me suspicious but I don't trust them personally to tell the truth about anything. When he was captured I didn't think it was him and there's nothing in his trial or execution to say otherwise. Interestingly the man in the dock didn't even confirm his identity as Saddam Hussein!

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

As it is, we have the word of the US military that a DNA test matched, and call me suspicious but I don't trust them personally to tell the truth about anything.

No, but you do trust them completely to lie about absolutely everything.

 

[Jazzz]

No, but you do trust them completely to lie about absolutely everything.

No, you cannot say that, although it may be quite close to the truth

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

No, you cannot say that.

I already did thanks.

I've seen loads of your posts and never once seen the slightest hint of any sort of balanced analysis.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

No, you cannot say that, although it may be quite close to the truth

And I thought you were defending yourself.

 

[editor]

Not from the body, no. Saddam's doubles were the best going, and they had plastic surgery to make them as close as possible.

This world-fooling 'patsy' must have been pretty good to have fooled all his enemies, friends, families and colleagues!

And he must have had a personality transplant as well as a perfect sci-fi face transplant to be able to testify at the trial without a single soul suspecting a thing!

But why would this patsy allow himself to be killed?

And, more importantly, have you a single solitary shred of credible evidence to back up your assertion that it wasn't the real Saddam, or is this another of your fantasies, like the 2012 sci-fi annual featuring holographic planes that you were previously citing?

As it is, we have the word of the US military that a DNA test matched, and call me suspicious but I don't trust them personally to tell the truth about anything.

Well, that and everyone else he's had contact with since his capture. And everyone who's seen and heard him on TV. And everyone who knew him closely.

Amazing that they've all been fooled, but clever ol'Jazzz knows better!

 

[Jazzz]

I already did thanks.

I've seen loads of your posts and never once seen the slightest hint of any sort of balanced analysis.

You cannot say it with any logic, whatever you think of my deductive skills. Of course I neither trust the US to tell the truth OR to lie.

But let's digress about 'balanced' analysis. Interesting phrase. Of course, it sounds most laudable. But does it not reflect the tendency for people to think that 'the truth is somewhere in the middle' - or 'massive lies are not possible'?

Which while serving well in everyday life, it is a dangerous line of reasoning when dealing with monster liars like George Bush et al. The reason is reflected in this infamous quote on 'the big lie'...

"they [the public] more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. "

So, you are right in a way. If 'balancing' analysis means giving both sides of an argument weight, simply because they are there, I don't go for it

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

So, you are right in a way. If 'balancing' analysis means giving both sides of an argument weight, simply because they are there, I don't go for it

That's not what I meant, but you carry on.

 

[editor]

Which while serving well in everyday life, it is a dangerous line of reasoning when dealing with monster liars like George Bush et al. The reason is reflected in this infamous quote on 'the big lie'...

How about when you're dialling with child killing liars like Ian Huntley?

 

[Jazzz]

This world-fooling 'patsy' must have been pretty good to have fooled all his enemies, friends, families and colleagues!

And he must have had a personality transplant as well as a perfect sci-fi face transplant to be able to testify at the trial without a single soul suspecting a thing!

But why would this patsy allow himself to be killed?

And, more importantly, have you a single solitary shred of credible evidence to back up your assertion that it wasn't the real Saddam, or is this another of your fantasies, like the 2012 sci-fi annual featuring holographic planes that you were previously citing?


Well, that and everyone else he's had contact with since his capture. And everyone who's seen and heard him on TV. And everyone who knew him closely.

Amazing that they've all been fooled, but clever ol'Jazzz knows better!

Yes, Saddam's doubles were notoriously good - you couldn't tell them apart, and we know for a fact that one of them at least would double for him in public engagements. Why would the patsy allow himself to be killed? Well for a start what choice did he have? The amount of judges and defence lawyers slain during the trial would not have been out of place in a Tarantino movie. You have to wonder what was going on. Secondly, have you seen Derren Brown in action? I would think that if he, with just a few sentences, could get a taxi driver to forget where the London Eye is, or someone to believe that his head was invisible, it would be pretty easy for the US military with all the drugs and time and control they needed to convince a man who has spent his life pretending to be Saddam Hussein that he should carry on doing just that.

Did anyone close to Saddam Hussein identify him? I'm not sure.

 

[Jazzz]

Here's an interesting video clip, which I hadn't seen before. It's of the soldiers that captured 'Saddam/Not Saddam'. You would expect them to be cock-a-hoop, but this is not the case at all! They are described by the CNN anchor as 'dazed and confused' and you can see them acting totally nonplussed by whatever it is that had gone on. Their commanding officer speaks ominously. My transcription:

"... he was grunting like a pig, literally hiding in a hole.... okay? Again - Nobody. Mention. Anything."

Amazing that this clip is out there.

 

[mikeinworthing]

Not from the body, no. Saddam's doubles were the best going, and they had plastic surgery to make them as close as possible.

<snip> blah, blah, blah!

I am glad the ed replied first – saves me wasting my life.

You really are a comic, but I wouldn’t give up the day job if I were you.

 

[editor]

. Why would the patsy allow himself to be killed? Well for a start what choice did he have? The amount of judges and defence lawyers slain during the trial would not have been out of place in a Tarantino movie.

So you really do have no evidence at all of this amazing, world-fooling deception, yes?

So why do you think you're right and everyone else - including people who have many, many passionate reasons to want him dead - are all wrong?

 

[editor]

They are described by the CNN anchor as 'dazed and confused' and you can see them acting totally nonplussed by whatever it is that had gone on. Their commanding officer speaks ominously. My transcription:

"... he was grunting like a pig, literally hiding in a hole.... okay? Again - Nobody. Mention. Anything."

Sorry. And what does this prove exactly?

 

[Jazzz]

So you really do have no evidence at all of this amazing, world-fooling deception, yes?

So why do you think you're right and everyone else - including people who have many, many passionate reasons to want him dead - are all wrong?

We've had several threads before on this where a lot more detail was gone into into the circumstances of the capture, the supposed DNA identification, etc. You don't know what 'everyone' thinks, you simply assume that what you can't see doesn't exist. Anyway, I must dash for now.

 

[Jazzz]

Sorry. And what does this prove exactly?

It very much backs up all the previous contention that the capture was not genuine but a staged psy-op. People should watch the clip.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

You don't know what 'everyone' thinks, you simply assume that what you can't see doesn't exist.

And you assume that it does. You're exactly what you claim to be against, just a mirror image.

 

[editor]

Anyway, I must dash for now.

Yes, best run off and tell your friends how you know the truth about Saddam and those stupid, stupid people in Iraq have all been fooled.