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David Icke on the Russell Brand show

Smoky said:
Say what you like about Icke you do have to admire the balls on the man, to go through all the public ridicule he's gone through and yet still carry on saying what he says cause he generally believes in it is, IMO, a pretty admirable quality.
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You mean like a racist keeps on spreading their bullshit and lies because that's what they believe in, regardless of whether it's the truth or not?

And what's so admirable about doing all you can to help shift dodgy DVDs?
 
Mooncat said:
There's a man who used to live at the end of my road who told anyone who'd listen (and anyone who wouldn't) that pigeons talked to him and were trying to kill him. I don't think admirable is the word I'm looking for when describing him.

Would it be funny if we tarred and feathered the mentally ill then paraded them down the high street? On second thoughts, don't answer that.
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The difference is this man you describe hasn't endured the sort of ridicule David Icke has, the reason I think it's admirable is because you don't often get people who really stand up for what they believe in anymore. Don't get me wrong, I think alot of what Icke says is bollocks but it's not like he's pulling these things out of his arse is it? he does do a hell of alot of research and he doesn't say "blindly believe what I say" he invites you to look it all up for yourself and research the claims he makes.
 
Smoky said:
Say what you like about Icke you do have to admire the balls on the man, to go through all the public ridicule he's gone through and yet still carry on saying what he says cause he generally believes in it is, IMO, a pretty admirable quality.
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Or he spotted a great business opportunity.

After all he lives a better/more interesting life than most.
 
Mooncat said:
There's a man who used to live at the end of my road who told anyone who'd listen (and anyone who wouldn't) that pigeons talked to him and were trying to kill him. I don't think admirable is the word I'm looking for when describing him.
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But did he make a living out of it?
 
editor said:
You mean like a racist keeps on spreading their bullshit and lies because that's what they believe in, regardless of whether it's the truth or not?

And what's so admirable about doing all you can to help shift dodgy DVDs?
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Whoa don't put words in my mouth, I don't why you're making the comparison tbh. Any rational person knows racism is bullshit, the idea that someone is better than someone else based solely on race is ludicrous. Thing about Icke though is people only say it's bullshit just because what he says sounds ridiculous and it does, i'm not disputing that, but you dismiss it straight away without looking it up for yourself, I do too because I have a pretty strong feeling it is bullshit but I don't know for certain.
 
Smoky said:
The difference is this man you describe hasn't endured the sort of ridicule David Icke has, the reason I think it's admirable is because you don't often get people who really stand up for what they believe in anymore. Don't get me wrong, I think alot of what Icke says is bollocks but it's not like he's pulling these things out of his arse is it? he does do a hell of alot of research and he doesn't say "blindly believe what I say" he invites you to look it all up for yourself and research the claims he makes.
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Hasn't he? Has David Icke has the local kids kick him down the street and trash his house? Every day? For years? Shame coz I'd liked to have joined them. The fucker should have stayed at Coventry where he would have done less damage to the causes he supposedly supports
 
mikeinworthing said:
Or he spotted a great business opportunity.

After all he lives a better/more interesting life than most.
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He doesn't strike me as someone who's loaded tbh, maybe he does have a more interesting life than most but no amount of public ridicule would be worth it, for me anyway. I'm sure you don't need me to point out that he's not the first and only person to talk about the things he does.
 
Mooncat said:
In moments of mental weakness I can perhaps see why he's railing against the Rothschilds, the Queen etc. But Kris Kristofferson? What-The-Fuck?
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(((Boxcar Willie)))
 
editor said:
And believing Bob Hope, Ted Heath, the Rothschild family, Boxcar Willie, the Queen of England, the Queen Mother, Prince Philip and Kris Kristofferson were all lizards isn't?

:eek:

http://books.guardian.co.uk/extracts/story/0,6761,457988,00.html
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I never said Icke's claims weren't bullshit and irrational, it's a pretty safe bet they are, I was merely commenting on his courage for continuing to stand up for what he believes in despite the serious public ridicule he had, being pointed at and laughed at in the street is pretty serious public ridicule to me, not even racists get that sort of ridicule :(
 
DJ Bigga said:
to be fair, those are not the only things he claims. ;)
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Of course not, he needs to include some truths to get people interested, than suck-in the more gullible to his more ‘weird’ theories, and than flog them some books & DVD’s.

TBH It’s not that much different to the ‘business plans’ of Rob L Hubbard and the Watchtower Society Inc
 
Smoky said:
despite the serious public ridicule he had, being pointed at and laughed at in the street is pretty serious public ridicule to me, not even racists get that sort of ridicule :(
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But did that seriously happen; we only have his word for it.

Or was he playing the sympathy card?

I bet must people would not even notice him if we passed him in the street, if we did we would probably think – oh he looks like Icke, by they time anyone considered pointing & laughing he would be gone.

Personally, I smell more bullshit.
 
He's a fucking lunatic, and the fact that CT fuckwits lap up all the shit he comes out with speaks volumes about their own mental states if you ask me.
 
Smoky said:
I never said Icke's claims weren't bullshit and irrational, it's a pretty safe bet they are, I was merely commenting on his courage for continuing to stand up for what he believes in despite the serious public ridicule he had, being pointed at and laughed at in the street is pretty serious public ridicule to me, not even racists get that sort of ridicule :(
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Poor old Icke, eh?

Still, here's some more of his "courageous" views that you admire him standing up for.
Allegations of anti-Semitism

Some of Icke's theories have been controversially attacked by some as anti-Semitic because of his references to a secret elite that rules the world, which includes prominent Jewish banking families, who he says planned the Holocaust and financed Adolf Hitler, and his use of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. In ... And the Truth Shall Set You Free he wrote:

I strongly believe that a small Jewish clique which has contempt for the mass of Jewish people worked with non-Jews to create the First World War, the Russian Revolution, and the Second World War. This Jewish/non-Jewish Elite used the First World War to secure the Balfour Declaration and the principle of the Jewish State of Israel. They then dominated the Versailles Peace Conference and created the circumstances which made the Second World War inevitable. They financed Hitler to power in 1933 and made the funds available for his rearmament."

In 1995, Alick Bartholomew of Gateway, at that time Icke's publisher, told the London Evening Standard that an early draft of ... And the Truth Shall Set You Free contained "revisionist Holocaust material."

Icke has cited white supremacist, neo-Nazi and other far-right publications in his books. British journalist Simon Jones notes that the bibliography of ... And the Truth Shall Set You Free lists The Spotlight, formerly published by the now-defunct Liberty Lobby, and which Icke calls "excellent," and On Target, published by the Australian League of Rights, which has organized speaking tours for Holocaust denier David Irving. Jones writes: "It's tempting to dismiss David Icke as a confused and ignorant man, manipulated by extremists in order to present their philosophy in a socially acceptable format. But Icke clearly understands the implications of his words."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke#Allegations_of_anti-Semitism
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mikeinworthing said:
Of course not, he needs to include some truths to get people interested, than suck-in the more gullible to his more ‘weird’ theories, and than flog them some books & DVD’s.

TBH It’s not that much different to the ‘business plans’ of Rob L Hubbard and the Watchtower Society Inc
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An old phrase of my mums fits quite nicely here.

'pick the sense out of the nonsense'
 
editor said:
Poor old Icke, eh?

Still, here's some more of his "courageous" views that you admire him standing up for.
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If you're gonna quote me can you at least do it correctly please? I didn't say any of his views were correct nor courageous, I said he was courageous and I was referring to his lizard views, I was unaware of what you just quoted from wiki. If that's true then fuck him :)
 
Smoky said:
If you're gonna quote me can you at least do it correctly please? I didn't say any of his views were correct nor courageous, I said he was courageous and I was referring to his lizard views, I was unaware of what you just quoted from wiki. If that's true then fuck him :)
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He's not racist smoky. This is so tiresome. Anyone that goes to his lecture will be quite aware that he isn't - he didn't even mention the word 'Jew' in six hours last time. His view (which I share, unlike lizards) is that our identity is not defined by tags such as religion, or race, even our bodies are simply 'software programs' and we are all part of the same cosmic consciousness.
 
editor said:
And what's so admirable about doing all you can to help shift dodgy DVDs?
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Send me a tenner, and I'll send you a DVD that explains exactly what's so admirable about doing all you can to help shift dodgy DVDs :)
 
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