claphamboy
The wheels on the bus go round and round....
It's not my 'chosen' document, it's the fucking official transcript from the inquest.
Section 17 (e):
Section 17 (f):
Section 17 (g):
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It's not my 'chosen' document, it's the fucking official transcript from the inquest.
Section 17 (e):
Section 17 (f):
Section 17 (g):
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Full page advert from 9-11 Troofers in the Indie today, sponsored by some Coffee Shop company
it's here, for those of use who don't have an Independent.
Ian Henshall's work. He's done a pretty damn good job too I think.
I switched over to Controversial TV (sky channel 200) and immediately some conspiranuts were claiming that Germany (and Holland iirc) were going to make peadophillia legal.
I have never come across such utter bollocks in my life. Even Icke made that look sane.
I have never come across such utter bollocks in my life. Even Icke made that look sane.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
So UK voters should pressure their elected amercian representatives to re-open the 911 investigation then? Master stroke.
The lead-in that shitty reverse spam demands an objective investigation gives a great example of just that when it talks of 'the 911 myth'.
claphamboy
The wheels on the bus go round and round....
It sort of starts alright, but then "9/11 was not just the result of gross incompetence but some sort of an inside job" and bangs goes support from any sane human being.
It sort of starts alright, but then "9/11 was not just the result of gross incompetence but some sort of an inside job" and bangs goes support from any sane human being.
You are misquoting. It's not presented as a statement of fact as you well know. You missed out
"Speculation is now rife, not least in Pakistan and Afghanistan, that..."
You couldn't find very much wrong with it, could you?
Obnoxiousness
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9/11 wasn't an inside job. It was Middle Eastern terrorists, the aliens told me. I went through various American airports a while before it happened, and their security was very casual.
claphamboy
The wheels on the bus go round and round....
You are misquoting. It's not presented as a statement of fact as you well know. You missed out
"Speculation is now rife, not least in Pakistan and Afghanistan, that..."
You couldn't find very much wrong with it, could you?
I wasn't suggesting it was presented as fact, for that they would need evidence, which they don't have, it is indeed just 'speculation [by the fruitloons placing the ad] that it was an inside job', it doesn't alter the fact that support from any sane human being would be lost at the point of reading the words 'some sort of an inside job'.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Yeah, but to be fair, what you normally think is utter bullcrap.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Oh blimey I did not know this channel existed, I will have to check it out for the lols.
They do have the occasional hour of non-conspiratorial 'alternative' discussion, but the majority of it seems to be independent media from 'truthers' and interviews with such. All the usual stuff.
You are misquoting. It's not presented as a statement of fact as you well know. You missed out
"Speculation is now rife, not least in Pakistan and Afghanistan, that..."
You couldn't find very much wrong with it, could you?
I couldn't find much wrong with it either, but all it's really claiming is that the US Govt knew that such an attack was likely, failed to prevent it, and took advantage of it when it happened. None of which is very controversial.
It's not my 'chosen' document, it's the fucking official transcript from the inquest.
Section 17 (e):
Section 17 (f):
Section 17 (g):
you are defending what quite likely was a murder, and spending hours doing so.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Well ummm...no it isn't. There's plenty of evidence that what was to become 9/11 was flagged as a possible by the CIA (see threads passim on this) but a combination of ideological position of Condi and a general distrust of the head of the CIA by the Bush admin (he was a Clinton appointee) meant that the intel was discarded as not very likely.
For me this is the most likely combination of events because it sounds the most human - a combination of dislike, ideology and ditrust. This is called 'incompetence', not 'conspiracy', altho I doubt that you, trev, would appreaciate the subtle difference between the two.
claphamboy
The wheels on the bus go round and round....
She only fucking died because the daft bint wasn’t wearing a seatbelt, even if there was a plot to cause the accident it was clearly not an attempt at murder, as even your hero Mansfield himself concluded during the inquest, because ‘they’ could never have counted on the seatbelt not being worn, the speed of the vehicle, etc.
It only takes a few seconds to google the inquest notes and a few minutes to read them with the result that you can adopt an informed position, if for some reason it takes you ‘hours’, I would suggest you stick with it, because it’s far better than coming across as an uninformed ignorant twat TBH.
She only fucking died because the daft bint wasn’t wearing a seatbelt, even if there was a plot to cause the accident it was clearly not an attempt at murder, as even your hero Mansfield himself concluded during the inquest, because ‘they’ could never have counted on the seatbelt not being worn, the speed of the vehicle, etc.
It only takes a few seconds to google the inquest notes and a few minutes to read them with the result that you can adopt an informed position, if for some reason it takes you ‘hours’, I would suggest you stick with it, because it’s far better than coming across as an uninformed ignorant twat TBH.
i am not really that sad. I'm only on HERE so much because of the post strike
With a private meeting with MPs happening tomorrow, and possible media scrutiny, I know the author decided it was important "not to go an inch beyond provable facts".
claphamboy
The wheels on the bus go round and round....
Should be over within about 5 minutes in that case.
Is dwyer turning into a '9/11 troofer' now? 
His usual Urban motives for adopting such a position doubtless apply here as well.
His usual Urban motives for adopting such a position doubtless apply here as well.
It looks like a web page created by a nutter.
Do you think that there is any possibility that Mansfield repeated all this stuff in order to sell more copies of his book?
The very title demonstrates what an immense cock he is.
toblerone3
Grrrrr
I thought that this thread title was quite interesting until the thread was hijacked and diverted off topic to discuss the merits and lack of merit of various conspiracy theories.
I think Urban75 collectively is quite obsessed with conspiracy theories (mainly in debunking them). Its very hard for Urban to ignore a conspiraloon link. Its a bit like a scab or itch that it has to scratch.
I think Urban75 collectively is quite obsessed with conspiracy theories (mainly in debunking them). Its very hard for Urban to ignore a conspiraloon link. Its a bit like a scab or itch that it has to scratch.
toblerone3 said:
You appear to categorise the anti conspiracists on Urban as the obsessive ones, which is a bit of a distortion of reality really.
Out and out conspiracy theorists are in a smallish minority on here sure, but to me the reason why Jazzz and posters like him are so roundly debunked by so many, is the sheer outlandishness of their claims, the dodginess/vested interests/conspiranoidery of their sources, the illogicality/anti-rationality of their reasoning, their cavalier take on the nature of facts/evidence/proof.
So OK Urban anti conspiracists may lose their tempers on occasion, and spend a bit too much time methodically demolishing in a bit too much detail the wildest of conspiracist claims.
But if the antis go too far sometimes that's nearly always rooted in the sheer bonkersness and nonsense posted up by the actual conspiracists in the first place.
toblerone3
Grrrrr
The question remains when is a CT link posted by Jazzz ever ever roundly ignored?
toblerone3
Grrrrr
Its a small group I agree.
They are:
Jazzz
Xes
Trev Hagl
Phil Dwyer
and
taffboy gwyrdd (?)
Any more?
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Nah, phil's just a troll, outside of the AIDS stuff.
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