brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
The films are real; they depict a fictional narrative.
Census 2021
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
so what you're saying is nothing in those films are real. nothing. jedis, lasers, the ewoks, the notion of men and women, androids - none of it exists outside the star wars universe.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Not too dissimilar to the bible but with a touch more consistency.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Quite. So no one sincerely believes in it as a religion.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
apparently - and unsurprisingly - you're wrong. ‘You have to face the darkness within you’: meet the real-life Jedi knights
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Again, who are you to peer into other people's souls and judge the sincerity of their supernatural beliefs?
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
We seem to be going round in circles. The Jedis and their belief were made up by George Lucas and its adherents know this
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Whereas other religious belief systems were not 'made up'?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
that's nothing, islam was made up by mohammed and everyone knows this
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Of course but their faith is still real
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
Sadly there are those who might legitimately claim all manner of conspiraloonery as religion.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Again, such judgement.
The Census question asks respondents to say "What is your religion?", there's no guidance regarding the timeframe of acceptable origin or whether or not their faith in the religion is "real".
Seems like a junk question, tbh.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
No
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
It is if people include it in their response to question 16 on the census, and the state will record it as such under the "Other religions" category.
Yeah but you don't have to believe that the Bible is the word of God to be a Christian. That's a very parvenu aspect.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
No, it’s a blank field so people can put down anything they want
I see. You should keep an annual register for the world to consult.
You’re probably supposed to if you are C of E or a Catholic though
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
Well, if Scientology is recognised as a kosher religion, pretty much anything can be.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Thanks
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Yes, in 2011 33.2 million people (59.3 per cent of the population) recorded their religion as Christian; it would be surprising if all of them believed that the Bible is the word of God.
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
No it is a fucking kleptocracy.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Mind you, so is Roman Catholicism and other churches
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
exactly; as opposed to those that actively choose the "No Religion" option; it is therefore officially recorded by the state as a religion and included within the "other religion" category.
Not Catholic. It was the Protestants who pushed the Bible as the sole authority, the Church of Rome depended more on the unbroken link with St Peter and thus Christ himself. Of course, the Protestants had no textual support for the Bible as the sole authority, because nowhere in the Bible does it say that it is itself the only authority.
“I’ma Christian but the Bible is a load of balls” is a tough sell.
It's more of a Vision Statement than a Operating Plan though, isn't it? Let alone a procedural manual.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Doesn’t mean it’s a religion.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
According to the state, (ONS), it does. If believers in Scientology thought it were not a religion they could tick the "No religion" box.
All of which, again, brings into focus the value of the question.
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