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I'd rather be disappointed whilst trying to change the world than be happy about it being shit.


I'd rather be happily disappointed with the knowledge that the world is totally indifferent to everything I could possibly think, say or do.
 
jesus this is difficult to watch, gets steadily worse and worse - she's a complete wreck, she shouldn't be allowed anywhere near these kind of things, for her own benefit as much as anyone else

 
I couldn't watch it all the way through, that was cringy.

On the brightside if Laurie ever needed to borrow a tiny man's suit the professor might be able to help...
 
jesus this is difficult to watch, gets steadily worse and worse - she's a complete wreck, she shouldn't be allowed anywhere near these kind of things, for her own benefit as much as anyone else



Unbelievably, as I hate him, I think I'm on Starkey's side if any.
 
I couldn't watch it all the way through, that was cringy.

On the brightside if Laurie ever needed to borrow a tiny man's suit the professor might be able to help...

No, you really do have to watch the last few minutes when it really falls apart and she starts lying about asking for a fee for the Thomas Paine debate. After the Starkey debate she claimed she asked for a tiny amount and then when it wasn't forthcoming she pulled out due to the desperate need for that tiny amount to cover her rent. Here she claims that she didn't want to debate with Starkey as she feared a set up and so deliberately asked for a ridiculous fee in order that the organisers would cancel the event. Absolute blatant making up lies on the spot. And she even undermined this idiocy a few minutes before by talking crap about plane fares.



Clean bowled - no two ways about it.
 
Seriously painful


I can't believe she actually said:
now we see the violence inherent in the discussion
:D

If you going to call out Starkey on his personal finances then be prepared to defend your own wicket. She was a gibbering mess. Still no time for Starkey - doing his Rod Hull minus Emu.
 
That is worse than watching Sarah Teather doing stand up. It's pretty amazing to make David Starkey look good.

Did anyone else catch Laurie's "I'm not privileged" glottal stop creep in to play as she floundered?
 
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