I agree, I presume she would be consulted before someone put her name forward or would it be her that needed to put herself out there in the first instance, I dont know how this works
If I was a Tory strategy adviser, I'd say their only remote chance of recovering things is sticking Cameron back in charge. Even then they'd still lose... but I think some floating voters in the centre might be persuaded to stick with a known Tory centrist.
I'm not convinced it's total bollux, tbh. Ashcroft's polling shows the advantage of a 'clean skin' leader; they carry lighter negative 'liability' ratings and higher net favourability numbers.
Or bloody Boris Johnson.If I was a Tory strategy adviser, I'd say their only remote chance of recovering things is sticking Cameron back in charge. Even then they'd still lose... but I think some floating voters in the centre might be persuaded to stick with a known Tory centrist.
I don't see what's in it for anyone - the Tories are probably going to lose half their seats, there is realistically no chance that whoever is leader of the party in GE night isn't going to have to resign, even if they've only been in post 3 months.
The prize is getting to be the leader after the GE defeat on order to shape the party to your will, not to resign within a week and a comedy pub quiz answer like Liz Truss....
So she should keep her head down until after the GE. Can I copyright the headline "Penny Dormant"?The prize is getting to be the leader after the GE defeat on order to shape the party to your will, not to resign within a week and a comedy pub quiz answer like Liz Truss....
I don't see what's in it for anyone - the Tories are probably going to lose half their seats, there is realistically no chance that whoever is leader of the party in GE night isn't going to have to resign, even if they've only been in post 3 months.
The prize is getting to be the leader after the GE defeat on order to shape the party to your will, not to resign within a week and a comedy pub quiz answer like Liz Truss....
I don't see what's in it for anyone - the Tories are probably going to lose half their seats, there is realistically no chance that whoever is leader of the party in GE night isn't going to have to resign, even if they've only been in post 3 months.
The prize is getting to be the leader after the GE defeat on order to shape the party to your will, not to resign within a week and a comedy pub quiz answer like Liz Truss....
There’s only one person who fits the Tory requirements of a “proven winner” and unfortunately for them he is also discredited with the electorate as a proven liar
Also why make a comeback and lose your “proven winner” status
That's the thing, it's logical to let Sunak take the bullet, then ride in on a white horse, with a clean slate.
The trouble they have is enough MPs would probably ensure a right-wingnut is on the ballot for the membership, them being loopy, will probably elect them under the mistaken belief that recovering votes from Reform will rescue them, totally ignoring the fact that elections are won in the middle ground, and a massive right-turn will put off more voters than it would gain.
They really are in a proper mess.
If they wanted it enough they’d make it happen I’m sure.and, assuming you mean that twat johnson, he would have to get selected for, and win, a by-election first.
(or at least i think so - i don't have a copy of vermin party rules to hand, but expect that party leader has to be an MP)
as for 'discredited' - there is a faction of potential tory voters who still want him back, with a fair crossover with the faction who will go and vote for refuck as things stand. i'm not convinced that faction is big enough to win a general election, though...
Perhaps that's the plan and this is just testing the water?I don't see what's in it for anyone - the Tories are probably going to lose half their seats, there is realistically no chance that whoever is leader of the party in GE night isn't going to have to resign, even if they've only been in post 3 months.
The prize is getting to be the leader after the GE defeat on order to shape the party to your will, not to resign within a week and a comedy pub quiz answer like Liz Truss....
and, assuming you mean that twat johnson, he would have to get selected for, and win, a by-election first.
(or at least i think so - i don't have a copy of vermin party rules to hand, but expect that party leader has to be an MP)
as for 'discredited' - there is a faction of potential tory voters who still want him back, with a fair crossover with the faction who will go and vote for refuck as things stand. i'm not convinced that faction is big enough to win a general election, though...
I think it's only agreed convention that the PM has to sit in the House of Commons, Douglas-Home was in the Lords when elected leader. So all Johnson has to do it to persuade someone to make him a Lord.
I stand ready to answer the call should it comeI don't think they could get away with a PM in the Lords nowadays.
Is that not exactly what they did with Cameron?
Although doing it for the first time in a long time kind of normalises it.I think they hit limit by putting Cameron in the Lords as FS, and it's not going to happen with a PM.
I'm struggling to understand the appeal of her, other than being white, and having some military service in the naval reserve.
You honestly think its about leadership qualities?
I feel like you're trying to make some kind of a point by calling her 'Pouting Penny' and posting that particular photo. Would be good to understand what that point is.
(Source: as stated in image)
Presumably, the frequently so-called "most sophisticated electorate in the world" having last chosen as prime minister someone who was outlasted in office by a lettuce, now believe that Pouting Penny Mordaunt's ability to handle a large sword in public is among the personal attributes that she possesses which are important for electoral success.
And didn't she have something to do with the baddies in Lord of the Rings?I'm struggling to understand the appeal of her, other than being white, and having some military service in the naval reserve. Though I guess that's maybe good enough for the Tories..
I would love nothing more than another leadership election but think it’s very unlikely. The minute it looks serious Sunak will simply trigger the nuclear option and call an election.saw this in the queue yesterday. With sufficient letters for a vonc she could be in within weeks, and given how many have said they're leaving at the next election, they can submit their letters without much fear of retribution if it all goes wrong.. GOK what she might do in the few months before a GE.
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