Not impossible there was 'implicit' agreement between Starmer and P & O when he managed to keep them on board for his investment junket. The practicalities of her getting booted out were left to 'others'. And here we are.
As an aside, there's a vetting procedure for physical entry into the HoC. You have to fill in a form to declare everything that could compromise you and they check it out to see if they can uncover anything else.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but nobody forced him into appointing Louise Haigh, either to the shadow cabinet and then the actual cabinet, in the first place.
Probably so, but the possibility arises out of her P & O comments and then getting slapped down by Starmer.
Well, even if you agree with them, it was a bit silly of her to make the P&O comments.
I've no idea. Honesty is the best policy so anyone with a phone nicked from an employer should hand it back it so their conscience is clear.So if you nick a workplace phone, change the SIM, it could still be traceable?
Have not read the whole thread so probably covered.
There's obviously more to this. If you claimed for a stolen phone then found the old one, it's a simple matter of declairing it. The Police certainly aren't going to pop round when it appears back on the network. |Being convicted of fraud for a petty mistake like that seems just as unlikely. My speculation...
She knew she had the old phone and promised it to someone, over email or messages that someone with a reason to report it to the Police saw then investigated. Or she's pulled this trick like 10 times or something.
Starmer, the whips office or someone in govt was tipped off that this was going to be broken as a story. Minister is phone thiefe, by a paper who's proprietor has an axe to grind re her views such as those expressed on PN&O. Dangerously lefty what what.
So if you nick a workplace phone, change the SIM, it could still be traceable?
I had real problems trying to transfer from old mobile to new one. The GiffGaff sim card kept not being recognized (not helped by not having a signal round here so having to go into a town) until it was and then it went through easily. .
Perhaps, like the Turncoat Rayner, she convinced the Starmbot her principles had been surgically removed?
Ta. In my experience that in itself would lead to a disciplinary investigation at work for potential misconduct/ gross misconduct. Multiple instances would aggravate it.
I find it unlikely that there were 'multiple ' instances of missing phones. 2 perhaps but she'd have been disciplined, even sacked, for anything beyond that.
You'd think!I’m guessing you are wilfully misunderstanding my post for comic effect
the BBC are reporting it as two. Considering she wasn't there that long, any more would be ridiculous.
So, we have a situation where it's alleged that on two occasions she says that she has lost or had her phone stolen. The response to one of those incidents is that the employer decides it is necessary to report this to the Police who decide to investigate. This results in a court case heard at the magistrates court where for what ever reason she pleads guilty to fraud. The employer takes no further action?
Did you buy the phone from them? All I got from giffgaff were two sim cards, which will work in any phone.
No it was an unlocked Motorola. When I bought a new unlocked phone from them I put the old SIM in the new phone but wanted the old phone as a spare so I went for giffgaff again...
Multiple instances? It's all very "morning Alan, got your big plate?"
