Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[Pickman's model]

stuff about how piv stops people caring about women's equality because they "love orgasms" too much, that sort of thing

isn't pivo the czech for beer?

 

[8ball]

stuff about how piv stops people caring about women's equality because they "love orgasms" too much, that sort of thing

So this is a case of radical feminists annexing the 'women, they love it up 'em' line it it? :confusing:

 

[ViolentPanda]

Julie Bindel isn't middle class.

Depends how you define class, doesn't it?

 

[goldenecitrone]

isn't pivo the czech for beer?

Yep. Plural. Tri piv prosim vas.

 

[Balbi]

Depends how you define class, doesn't it?

 

[ViolentPanda]

http://www2.lse.ac.uk/publicEvents/events/2013/01/20130122t1830vSZT.aspx

Women, Protest and the Nature of Female Rebellion

Ralph Miliband Programme: movement, protest and social change

Date: Tuesday 22 January 2013
Time: 6.30-8pm
Venue: Sheikh Zayed Theatre, New Academic Building
Speaker: Laurie Penny
Taking in Pussy Riot and the 2011 uprisings, and stretching back to the Paris Commune, a contextual look at how the rage and pride of women is personal, political – and endlessly powerful.
Laurie Penny is a journalist, blogger and author. She is currently a columnist and reporter for The Independent.



I thought she got a p45 from the indie?

I'm sure Dave has done that speech before!

 

[Brixton Hatter]

isn't pivo the czech for beer?

Yep - it is also the serbo-croat for beer: Dva pivo molim

 

[Brixton Hatter]

I'm sure Dave has done that speech before!

It's an excellent opportunity to create a speech based around all her personal anecdotes...

 

[Steel Icarus]

It's an excellent opportunity to create a speech based around all her personal anecdotes...

Actually that would be brilliant. Like a greatest hits. Singing the Internationale, that time she crashed the ash, the deux ex machina incident with Ryan Gosling, how David Starkey dropkicked her off a stage otherwise filled with people chanting "Lau-RIE, Lau-RIE", How Everyone Is a Racist Especially Those Nasty Anti-Racists, and how she single-handedly saved a suicidal man's life by concentrating really, really hard on a copy of Chairman Mao's Little Red Book personally signed by the Dean of her old college.

 

[el-ahrairah]

Depends how you define class, doesn't it?

i suppose so. her background is certainly working class.

 

[ViolentPanda]

i suppose so. her background is certainly working class.

While her current status is firmly middle.

 

[butchersapron]

How are "public lectures" helping 'to advance his [miliband] spirit of free social inquiry'? Two years ago, Saif Gaddafi gave a Miliband Programme lecture - in fact David Held turned the Programme into a bit of a corrupt prop to all sorts of dodgy people and ideas. Great tradition to be following in.

 

[Pickman's model]

http://www2.lse.ac.uk/publicEvents/events/2013/01/20130122t1830vSZT.aspx

Women, Protest and the Nature of Female Rebellion

Ralph Miliband Programme: movement, protest and social change

Date: Tuesday 22 January 2013
Time: 6.30-8pm
Venue: Sheikh Zayed Theatre, New Academic Building
Speaker: Laurie Penny
Taking in Pussy Riot and the 2011 uprisings, and stretching back to the Paris Commune, a contextual look at how the rage and pride of women is personal, political – and endlessly powerful.
Laurie Penny is a journalist, blogger and author. She is currently a columnist and reporter for The Independent.



I thought she got a p45 from the indie?

Another example of how the more remote something is the more liberals like it. No mention there of eg women in the six counties or women in the miners strike.

 

[butchersapron]

Here's the man the lecture venue is named after:

Behind the crackdown are primarily Bahraini troops but also the Peninsula Shield Force, a joint military cooperation force between the Gulf States. This includes the United Arab Emirates (UAE) that have deployed police officers and soldiers to gun down civilian protesters. The army of the UAE was established by the late Sheikh Zayed, and if that doesn't ring a bell them here we go: Sheikh Zayed was dictator of the UAE until his death in 2004. Apart from sponsoring holocaust-denying conferences and permitting the gross exploitation of workers (particularly from India and Pakistan) who are used as slave-like labour, he also illegalised homosexuality.

 

[articul8]

Ralph will be spinning - like when they got Saif Gaddafi to give the Miliband lecture. (edit - already referred to up thread)

 

[rekil]

Cmbbe Zayed checking his privilege yesterday.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

He's got a lot to check

 

[rekil]

He's got a lot to check

According to the intersectionality wheel, apart from being dead, he's probably still less privileged than everybody here. Makes you think.

 

[butchersapron]

I take it there must be some benefits to performing in a room named after someone who made homosexuality illegal?

 

[rekil]

Another example of how the more remote something is the more liberals like it. No mention there of eg women in the six counties or women in the miners strike.

She hasn't logged in for a week but she's probably lurking, so you never know, she might pinch a few ideas from here to take the bare look off what will be one hell of a shit talk. Come on lauriepenny, do some bullshitting about Cumann Na mBan or chilean schoolgels.

 

[rekil]

I take it there must be some benefits to performing in a room named after someone who made homosexuality illegal?

A nice cup of tea.

 

[el-ahrairah]

While her current status is firmly middle.

true. i don't doubt her commitment to working class women. working class men i don't think she's so keen on, except as a proxy by which to annoy middle class men.

 

[el-ahrairah]

I take it there must be some benefits to performing in a room named after someone who made homosexuality illegal?

the pay?

 

[love detective]

true. i don't doubt her commitment to working class women. working class men i don't think she's so keen on, except as a proxy by which to annoy middle class men.

what evidence have we seen to support her commitment to working class women? (whatever commitment to them actually means)

 

[butchersapron]

the pay?

Well, there's gadaffi and Sheikh Zayed money floating around - someone has to get it.

 

[articul8]

contextual analysis of the Paris Commune? OK <hopes for the best, fears the worst>

 

[cesare]

"Rage and pride"

 

[butchersapron]

contextual analysis of the Paris Commune? OK <hopes for the best, fears the worst>

wtf do you think the best could possibly look like?

 

[rekil]

"Rage and pride"

And tea! *giggles

 

[butchersapron]

"Rage and pride" in the Horst house.