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Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags
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equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
I wish my Marxist Feminist Dialectic brought all the boys to the yardI see femjewellery has moved on since those heady days.....
http://www.leftfootforward.org/2013/01/comment-on-feminism-and-the-suzanne-moore-controversy/
Can't decide what I think of this. One of its themes seems to be a wish for accessible, non academic, non specialised language...but it contains the likes of this..."This just needlessly problematises solidarity and divides those who are fighting the good fight against societal injustice into blocks of oppressed and non-oppressed. The protest space is necessarily subjective, sure, but it is also a space for fighting the greater good in union."
I liked this bit though..."Inherent to dismissing Moran and Suzanne Moore as un-feminist is snobbery, followed by a desire to academicise the real lives of women living in an unequal society, and to maintain the differentiation between oppressed and non-oppressed via the vehicle of narcissistic guilt."
But even this is just a bit bollocks. Ultimately, judging Moore and Moran by the standards adopted by the self-appointed intersectionality constabulary is a category error. They write in broad strokes in a matter of fact, humorous manner. Subjecting them to the kind of scrutiny applied by the self-righteous pedlars of 'cutting-edge' feminism is just silly.
Can't decide what I think of this. One of its themes seems to be a wish for accessible, non academic, non specialised language...but it contains the likes of this..."This just needlessly problematises solidarity and divides those who are fighting the good fight against societal injustice into blocks of oppressed and non-oppressed. The protest space is necessarily subjective, sure, but it is also a space for fighting the greater good in union."
I liked this bit though..."Inherent to dismissing Moran and Suzanne Moore as un-feminist is snobbery, followed by a desire to academicise the real lives of women living in an unequal society, and to maintain the differentiation between oppressed and non-oppressed via the vehicle of narcissistic guilt."
But even this is just a bit bollocks. Ultimately, judging Moore and Moran by the standards adopted by the self-appointed intersectionality constabulary is a category error. They write in broad strokes in a matter of fact, humorous manner. Subjecting them to the kind of scrutiny applied by the self-righteous pedlars of 'cutting-edge' feminism is just silly.
I might try wacking up the bass...see if she makes more sense when she sounds like she's over 14.
love detective
there's no love too small
don't touch that dial
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
touch that dial even if you can't touch that dial
love detective
there's no love too small
even if you don't have a dial, please don't touch it
rekil
to menny cranks
It's from the future. That's a little bit détournement or something.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Done any research into their turn over and where they go?
youngian
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Are you Larry David?
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Is he funny?
youngian
Well-Known Member
I can imagine finding that funny.
ymu
Niall Ferguson's deep-cover sock-puppet
The Observer has withdrawn the Burchill clickbait: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/jan/14/observer-withdraws-julie-burchill-column
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
And not a mention of her doing a talk at a venue paid for and named after a dictator who outlawed homosexuality. That shit don't matter - this twitter shit is.
love detective
there's no love too small
laurie penny said:
she's bang on about this, but does she realise that the identity politics that she unconditionally cheerleads are firmly grounded in essentialism, and are therefore conservative and reactionary
weepiper
I fix the machines that fight climate change
It's happening right now in glorious technicolour, because everyone's attention is firmly on this row instead of the reasonable points Suzanne Moore was trying to make in the original article, which have been completely fucking eclipsed because she made a bad choice of analogy and instead of holding her hands up and apologising for that, she backed herself into a corner and started biting anyone who approached. Shitstorm ensues. I see the Guardian has taken that Burchill piece down but left up the disgraceful abuser apologist article about paedophilia from the other week.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
What was that one?
weepiper
I fix the machines that fight climate change
butchersapron
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weepiper
I fix the machines that fight climate change
I don't think either article should have been published.
articul8
Dishonest sociopath
I think, though obviously and consciously dealing with highly problematic stuff, the one on paedophilia is a worthwhile piece (although there are aspects of the views expressed that I'd be extremely uncomfortable with). Burchill is just being an offensive rent-a-gobshite. Which is why they pay her?
weepiper
I fix the machines that fight climate change
this explains some of my problems with it
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/t...s-massive-error-of-judgment-over-paedophilia/
ymu
Niall Ferguson's deep-cover sock-puppet
The guy that wrote the paedophilia piece is surprised people have taken it as endorsing the practice. He was commissioned to review what was known, that's all. He says in hindsight he'd have included a disclaimer saying that he didn't endorse certain views but hadn't thought it would be necessary.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Looks to me like he only 'reviewed' one side of the 'debate'.
articul8
Dishonest sociopath
You see, some of those critics just want a total prohibition on all thought or consideration of the topic.
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