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[Fedayn]

Also amazing that you think I'm angry about all this.

Nor have I said a single word about the end of civilization. What does the end of civilization mean anyway?

So why do you worry so much about it? Why does it irk you?

Man City winning the league, civilization will crunble, especially as some of them are tattooed.

 

[Frances Lengel]

It's exactly what he's saying and it's exactly what hll be saying in 40 years time when he's crying for the nurse because he can't piss because of his fucked prostate.... And then the appallingly tattooed nurse will cause him more convulsions of rage.

Some people like tattoos, some people don't. Lletsa is contemplating the end of civilization because a few trendy wankers have tattoos and it's a cause of grave concern for our seer.

Nah, lletsa's from M/P, his nurse won't have tats, she'll have big ear rings, jet black hair and that hardfaced as fuck "north manchester face".

 

[Fedayn]

Nah, lletsa's from M/P, his nurse won't have tats, she'll have big ear rings, jet black hair and that hardfaced as fuck "north manchester face".

I thought he was from Ardwick.

 

[Fedayn]

Even I don't think that. I think the difference is that some people go through life believing that they're exactly what they think they are whereas others have at least an inkling that the truth is more complicated.

Some people go through their life moaning about others not doing what they think they should.... There's better/bigger things to worry about than whether some woman from accounts has a tattoo that her kids might see.

 

[frogwoman]

the self mutilation of getting a tattoo is just a reflection of the self mutilation of consumerism upon society

or something

 

[Frances Lengel]

I might be wrong, I thought he's from m/p -if am wrong all bets are off.

 

[frogwoman]

the discoloration of the skin is like the discoloration of the workers' consciousness under capitalism

 

[LLETSA]

I might be wrong, I thought he's from m/p -if am wrong all bets are off.

I am but don't live there now. Or even in M/C.

 

[LLETSA]

I thought he was from Ardwick.

Lived there for a bit once.

 

[weepiper]

the discoloration of the skin is like the discoloration of the workers' consciousness under capitalism

the lack of respect for their bodies reflects their status in society

 

[LLETSA]

Some people go through their life moaning about others not doing what they think they should.... There's better/bigger things to worry about than whether some woman from accounts has a tattoo that her kids might see.

I never said it was the biggest issue; I said it was a symptom of a wider malaise.

 

[frogwoman]

the lack of respect for their bodies reflects their status in society

Comrades! We must denounce this commodity fetish which reflects the barbarousness of capitalism in its purest form etc

 

[Fedayn]

Lived there for a bit once.

Just south of MP isn't it?

 

[LLETSA]

Just south of MP isn't it?

I think of it as further east.

 

[discokermit]

I am but don't live there now. Or even in M/C.

not yorkshire?

i thought this was you,

 

[Fedayn]

I think of it as further east.

ish

 

[LLETSA]

not yorkshire?

i thought this was you,

I'm not taking insults from a woollyback like you.

 

[Fedayn]

I never said it was the biggest issue; I said it was a symptom of a wider malaise.

It's not a symptom of anything other than people seeing people getting them and because they 'like' those celebs they think they'd like to get one. Not as if this has never happened before, it's nothing new or even worth moaning about. Turning rebellion into money as The Clash once said....

 

[Frances Lengel]

I am but don't live there now. Or even in M/C.

If you're a platting lad, then you'll do for me I think you're safe, you know how it's going. TBF you have professed the end of civilisation - when capitalism fails an such, most of us will die, you have said that, an I don't think you're wrong. Whereabouts in m/p? anywhere near bradfford square in the maisonettes?

 

[discokermit]

I'm not taking insults from a woollyback like you.

woollyback? we invented industrial capitalism. second biggest urban conurbation in the country, you cottonspinning bumpkin cunt.

 

[frogwoman]

when i get my tattoos i will be sure to show lletsa immediately

 

[weepiper]

Comrades! We must denounce this commodity fetish which reflects the barbarousness of capitalism in its purest form etc

Skin must be pure and unsullied as the skin of Our Great Leader's brow as it stands against the red glow of the new dawn.

 

[LLETSA]

woollyback? we invented industrial capitalism. second biggest urban conurbation in the country, you bumpkin.

Still fucking woollybacks. And I think you'll find that we invented industrial capitalism. And most other things.

 

[LLETSA]

If you're a platting lad, then you'll do for me I think you're safe, you know how it's going. TBF you have professed the end of civilisation - when capitalism fails an such, most of us will die, you have said that, an I don't think you're wrong. Whereabouts in m/p? anywhere near bradfford square in the maisonettes?

Just off Hulme Hall Lane. Nearly opposite the Red Rec. In fact our house virtually backed onto the evil Edwards's meat empire.

 

[discokermit]

Still fucking woollybacks. And I think you'll find that we invented industrial capitalism. And most other things.

get to fuck. knitting cotton underpants while we mined and made the iron that made the guns that built the empire? fuck off.

 

[LLETSA]

get to fuck. knitting cotton underpants while we mined and made the iron that made the guns that built the empire? fuck off.

I'd love to hear your comic yokel accent, Noddy.

 

[Greebo]

<snip>we invented industrial capitalism.<snip>

You say that as if it's a good thing.

 

[discokermit]

I'd love to hear your comic yokel accent, Noddy.

it's like music.

 

[LLETSA]

You say that as if it's a good thing.

It was and it wasn't.

 

[Greebo]

It was and it wasn't.

Expand on that?