Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[LLETSA]

It's not a symptom of anything other than people seeing people getting them and because they 'like' those celebs they think they'd like to get one. Not as if this has never happened before, it's nothing new or even worth moaning about. Turning rebellion into money as The Clash once said....

Trouble is, it was never rebellion in the first place.

 

[Fedayn]

I think of it as further east.

No, it's South, more 'east' would be Beswick.

 

[Fedayn]

Trouble is, it was never rebellion in the first place.

Yes and no.

 

[Frances Lengel]

Just off Hulme Hall Lane. Nearly opposite the Red Rec. In fact our house virtually backed onto the evil Edwards's meat empire.

I know it, that meat factory, was that the one on the 77 route that had meat is murder in massive paint on it? My dad grew up in the tripe colony, I had my first ever flat in gunson street flats, landos court.

 

[LLETSA]

Expand on that?

It gave birth to the working class movement, which was eventually able to command for the wider class a life where you no longer had to die in your own piss at 37.

 

[discokermit]

It gave birth to the working class movement, which was eventually able to command for the wider class a life where you no longer had to die in your own piss at 37.

and you could get a tatto if you fancied it. or dye your hair.

 

[LLETSA]

I know it, that meat factory, was that the one on the 77 route that had meat is murder in massive paint on it? My dad grew up in the tripe colony, I had my first ever flat in gunson street flats, landos court.

No, that was on Bradford Road. Edwards's was the big place off Oldham Road near the arches (where MP becomes Newton Heath.) The former owners of the great Manyoo.

 

[Frances Lengel]

Still fucking woollybacks. And I think you'll find that we invented industrial capitalism. And most other things.

Mancunians invented everything, for better or worse, but we did.

 

[LLETSA]

and you could get a tatto if you fancied it. or dye your hair.

Actually tattoos go back thousands of years blah blah...

 

[Fedayn]

I had my first ever flat in gunson street flats, landos court.

Just off Oldham Road?

 

[Frances Lengel]

No, that was on Bradford Road. Edwards's was the big place off Oldham Road near the arches (where MP becomes Newton Heath.) The former owners of the great Manyoo.

Edwards was the big abbotoir ,then, yeah youre right, the one am thinkin of was on bradford road.

 

[Greebo]

It gave birth to the working class movement, which was eventually able to command for the wider class a life where you no longer had to die in your own piss at 37.

OTOH it also gave rise to more people becoming slaves to the hours set by their employer, instead of having a bit of freedom to set their own working hours as long as all the work got done by the required time.

 

[LLETSA]

No, it's South, more 'east' would be Beswick.

I know. South-east then.

 

[Frances Lengel]

Just off Oldham Road?

that's the one my mate, just past wing yip on the other side.

 

[LLETSA]

Edwards was the big abbotoir ,then, yeah youre right, the one am thinkin of was on bradford road.

It was a processing plant. The abbatoir was off Briscoe Lane.

 

[Fedayn]

that's the one my mate, just past wing yip on the other side.

Don't know that part of the ciy as well as you two but for some reason I know those flats....

 

[LLETSA]

Don't know that part of the ciy as well as you two but for some reason I know those flats....

It wasn't you who used to nick the bog roll from the toilets in the Old Pack Horse across the road, was it?

 

[Fedayn]

It wasn't you who used to nick the bog roll from the toilets in the Old Pack Horse across the road, was it?

Shhhhh.... Nah, the only pub i've ever drunk in on Oldham Road/Street is The Castle.

 

[Greebo]

It wasn't you who used to nick the bog roll from the toilets in the Old Pack Horse across the road, was it?

Is it his fault that you didn't get there first?

 

[LLETSA]

Is it his fault that you didn't get there first?

it was apparently the oldest licensed premises within the city boundaries. But never any bog roll.

 

[Frances Lengel]

It was a processing plant. The abbatoir was off Briscoe Lane.

Right, I only know the abbotoir and that gaffe on bradford road, my dad used to always talk about mather an platts, I only remember it as a ruin - You got a few years on me, then?

 

[LLETSA]

Right, I only know the abbotoir and that gaffe on bradford road, my dad used to always talk about mather an platts, I only remember it as a ruin - You got a few years on me, then?

Born in '63.

 

[Frances Lengel]

Don't know that part of the ciy as well as you two but for some reason I know those flats....

You will know those flats - A lot of history went down in those babies.

 

[discokermit]

fuck off you boring manc cunts.

 

[Frances Lengel]

Born in '63.

ten years on me then - can you remember m/p before it all got knocked down an rebuilt then?

 

[Frances Lengel]

fuck off you boring manc cunts.

up yer mam

 

[Fedayn]

it was apparently the oldest licensed premises within the city boundaries. But never any bog roll.

Is that the pub the BNPer ran and was closed down?

 

[discokermit]

up yer mam

mom.

 

[Greebo]

it was apparently the oldest licensed premises within the city boundaries. But never any bog roll.

But if there was never any there, there was never any bog roll to steal in the first place. Unless you mean that you didn't ever know (or hear of) anyone who used the loos there before it had been nicked.

 

[LLETSA]

ten years on me then - can you remember m/p before it all got knocked down an rebuilt then?

I can remember all my relatives getting rehoused when 'the new estate' as everybody called it then, went up. Around 1970, I think. Before that my grandparents' house in the Butler Street area was pulled down in the slum clearances and they were rehoused in the maisonnettes just down from the tower blocks where you lived. I remember those tower blocks going up and the building of the Notts Castle pub. And the Spanking Roger. Long family connection with Corpus Christi school and church.