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2016 Coup in Turkey?

Turkish staff at the LSE have been ordered back to Turkey and new personnel due to take up their posts in September are "No longer available".
 
Spymaster said:
Who gets to 'order people back to Turkey'?
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Presumably the authorities at the LSE, after all they they named their main lecture theatre after Sheikh Zayed the former dictator of the UAE; and they fawned to Said Gadaffi. Erdogan is more powerful and has more democratic legitimacy than either of the former.
 
tim said:
Presumably the authorities at the LSE, after all they they named their main lecture theatre after Sheikh Zayed the former dictator of the UAE; and they fawned to Said Gadaffi.
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What's that got to do with anything?

They could possibly order them out of the LSE but couldn't force them on a plane back to Turkey.
 
From a "well informed" source.
Up until today the 'out of the norm' thing our HR dept had to deal with was a bit of forward planning for Brexit. But now they are dealing with current Turkish colleagues being told to return home and those due to take up posts in September no longer being 'available'. The world is truly going mad.
It's true that they could refuse to return but that might be a career-limiting decision.
 
You seriously think that the Turkish government is intimidating their overseas citizens to return with threats against their families?
 
The threat doesn't have to be a gun butt knocking on the door. It will be in the mind of the exile far from home and family. "Why didn't you come back to your Motherland and help the Government put down this revolt when we asked you to ? Do you sympathise with them ? You and your family are obviously not to be trusted." This will be in the mind of the exile.
 
coley said:
No, there is no real comparison, the Kurds are an oppressed people, as where the Irish and the British came to an acceptable ( if somewhat imperfect) compromise, ratified by a referendum in the early 70s.
The Kurds have had no such opportunity to seek self determination, this is what lies at the root of the current situation, had they had such an opportunity,then perhaps there would have been no need for organisations such as the PKK and even if such organisations had emerged, despite a possible acceptance of Turkish dominance, than the Turkish govt would have had the moral high ground in using force against them.
As it is, the Turkish govt and Kurds and now the arrested, gagged Turkish liberal establishment are in a three ringed fight.
Happy days, and let's be honest, Erdogans going to have to increasingly rely on the Islamic ' hard core' to retain power.
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Phil, calling phildwyer, are you in jail? or has Erdogan given you a job as a 'special advisor' ? Let us know, your finger on the beating Turkish pulse is always read with interest;)
 
The Turkish government has a lot of programmes involved in sending students abroad on scholarships (somewhat of an admission that their own education system is lacking) - a friend of mine is doing a phd now through this scheme - they get everything paid for but are indebted to the state for double the amount of the time they spend abroad. If they don't go back, family assets are seized and legal procedures take place. Other programmes include Turks sent as sort of cultural ambassadors to areas with many second generation Turkish children. I have another friend doing this in France - they go to a sort of after school club where they learn Turkish, about the great nation etc. All of these programmes are now in jeopardy.

If I didn't work for the state, I wouldn't be putting my plan B into action quite so rapidly. My friends at private schools are not generally thinking of leaving. But I don't want to live like this anymore. I also have a habit of being a bit provocative in lessons regarding such shocking issues as equal rights, different religions, LGBT etc. Could get me in trouble at some point.
 
miss direct said:
... I also have a habit of being a bit provocative in lessons regarding such shocking issues as equal rights, different religions, LGBT etc. Could get me in trouble at some point.
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Heh. Probably better to leave, then. :) I suppose you'll have to return to Turkey, though, to pack up all your things. I hope that doesn't prove too tricky.
 
Lancman said:
The threat doesn't have to be a gun butt knocking on the door. It will be in the mind of the exile far from home and family. "Why didn't you come back to your Motherland and help the Government put down this revolt when we asked you to ? Do you sympathise with them ? You and your family are obviously not to be trusted." This will be in the mind of the exile.
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Traditional Stalin maneuver
 
kebabking said:
It's currently happening with Turkish officers and Staff at NATO, and I'd put good money on at least one applying for political asylum before the month is out.

Welcome to diplomatic hell.
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Government employees is one thing. Private citizens working abroad is quite another.
 
Today there was a mass pro democracy protest in Turkey and they were waving the same flags as the masses who were mobilized every night these past few days.

Anyone know what the balance of forces really is? Were all the people protesting against the coup hardened Erdogan supporters willing to see democracy eroded?
 
Heard that 1200 conscript soldiers, who were arrested during the coup have now been released as it is recognized that they were only following orders.
 
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