tim
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Things could get worse. We could have Lowkey posting here in person.
Niger coup
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ska invita
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Haha! Hes a good example of the kind of narratives floating around though.... Crude anti-imperialism. He might be right but looks to me ECOWAS is the will of the member state presidents and prime ministers ... That may well be lockstep with US Imperial interests but that's not because of ECOWAS, that's just old fashioned power that gets you to the top.
I hadn't heard of ECOWAS till today so the above is an impression
ska invita
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Timeline: A history of ECOWAS military interventions in three decades
The West African bloc has a history of successful military interventions to restore constitutional order in the region.
Is it naive to believe it is in all the states collective interest to stamp out coups for democracies sake? I guess it depends how corrupt elections are and who gets to win them.
twistedAM
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I hadn't until the last year or so when they were condemning the Burkino-Faso and Mali military interventions. Several ECOWAS countries have problems with jihadists themselves so probably don't want their military getting similar ideas.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I think the gasline from Nigeria that Spain and Portugal use passes through Niger? Unless it comes another way ?
Looks like Spain gets gas from Algeria?
Europe looks to Africa to fill natural gas gap
DW 04.03.2022
NIGAL gas pipeline project revived
RD2003
Got a really fucking shitty attitude
The US has not seen any indication that Russia was behind the coup in Niger, the White House has said.
National security council spokesperson John Kirby told reporters the US government has not changed its decision on presence in Niger, after its president, Mohamed Bazoum, was topped on Wednesday in a military coup.
Thousands of people backing the coup were seen marching through the streets of the capital, Niamey, denouncing France, the country’s former colonial power.
Some demonstrators shouted support for Russia’s president, Vladimir Putin, while carrying Russian flags. Shouts of “long live Putin,” “long live Russia” and “down with France” could be heard among the crowds on Sunday.
National security council spokesperson John Kirby told reporters the US government has not changed its decision on presence in Niger, after its president, Mohamed Bazoum, was topped on Wednesday in a military coup.
Thousands of people backing the coup were seen marching through the streets of the capital, Niamey, denouncing France, the country’s former colonial power.
Some demonstrators shouted support for Russia’s president, Vladimir Putin, while carrying Russian flags. Shouts of “long live Putin,” “long live Russia” and “down with France” could be heard among the crowds on Sunday.
ska invita
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The timing with the Russian-African conference might be a thing
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Which ever way the route goes it's a joint PT/ESP agreement, with the potential to supply other states in the EU
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Looks like a lot of the former colonies on the region are pretty much fed up with France's shit; Guinea, B-F and Mali all ousted their troops.
I saw videos last year of people marching in Ouagadougou with Russian flags but not sure if the embassy got attacked like in Niamey.
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
can't blame them with being pissed with the french, not sure the swap wil be any beneficial though
twistedAM
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The CIA are probably plotting counter-coups followed by "fair and democratic" elections just like the post-independence Cold War times. Expect dead generals and lots of civilians.
tim
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The DGSE not the CIA.
Do they have a huge interest in West Africa then? They don’t appear to give a shit about what has been happening in Guinea Bissau although perhaps they don’t have the mineral reserves.
twistedAM
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It was just an assumption that where Russia goes they keep an eye on the place.
Fair point. China are all over Africa also. Just like we were.
ska invita
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Obviously not a impartial source but there's a guardian editorial today which quoting Chatham House reckons ECOWAS threat of overthrowing the coup is grounded in a wider previously existing anti-coup plans .....
"the coup leaders appear to have misjudged how their putsch would be received regionally and by the international community.
The biggest error, perhaps, was a misreading of a newly invigorated Ecowas determined not to replicate its weak response to other coups in the Sahel in the past few years. Among those who had noted a recent marked change in the bloc’s stance has been Alex Vines, the head of the Africa programme at the thinktank Chatham House who was recently in Abuja – where west African defence chiefs have been meeting.
“Even before this coup Ecowas was thinking about security arrangements the region needed to change both around the continued danger of radical islamists and more contention from puschists. Part of what Ecowas has been talking about was creating an effective anti-putsch force in the region, which is what Ecowas’s military chief of staffs have been discussing,” Vines says.
Particularly important, he argues, has been the political mood music in Nigeria, where President Bola Tinubu is “allergic to putschists, having had experience of being detained by them”.
.... The week deadline must be getting close.
"the coup leaders appear to have misjudged how their putsch would be received regionally and by the international community.
The biggest error, perhaps, was a misreading of a newly invigorated Ecowas determined not to replicate its weak response to other coups in the Sahel in the past few years. Among those who had noted a recent marked change in the bloc’s stance has been Alex Vines, the head of the Africa programme at the thinktank Chatham House who was recently in Abuja – where west African defence chiefs have been meeting.
“Even before this coup Ecowas was thinking about security arrangements the region needed to change both around the continued danger of radical islamists and more contention from puschists. Part of what Ecowas has been talking about was creating an effective anti-putsch force in the region, which is what Ecowas’s military chief of staffs have been discussing,” Vines says.
Particularly important, he argues, has been the political mood music in Nigeria, where President Bola Tinubu is “allergic to putschists, having had experience of being detained by them”.
.... The week deadline must be getting close.
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How likely is it that Macron will intervene militarily in Niger? It might seem that Niger could cut his electricity off given that France are 70 per cent nuclear power? and then there is the "force de frappe" which perhaps also relies on Niger's Uranium? Is he in a bit of a pickle?
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
As tomorrow's deadline that ECOWAS has imposed to restore power to elected President Mohamed Bazoum by Sunday nears there are some reports that Niger has approached Wagner for help.
jeff_leigh
What happened to Dubversion ?
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Why, rather than militaries from countries in the area?
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Isn't that the percentage of world Uranium that Niger produces?
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Le Monde puts French imports of uranium from Niger at 20%
www.lemonde.fr
How dependent is France on Niger's uranium?
The military coup in Niger has raised concerns about uranium mining in the country by the French group Orano, and the consequences for France's energy independence.
www.lemonde.fr
jeff_leigh
What happened to Dubversion ?
Yeah, Looks like I read it wrong
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
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