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ViolentPanda Exactly the same thought occurred to me when she started.
2016 Coup in Turkey?
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Kai
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What is "Putins version of democracy" ? According to your washed minds, anything is "wrong" as long as it contradicts with Western interests. Putin have kicked money barons out of Russia and suddenly he became a "bad guy". You have no right to talk about "democracy", all Western countries supports military coup in Turkiye as they did in Egypt too, as they did everytime in the history.
We will have to intervene militarily to your countries as long as you keep these unfriendly attitudes against Muslim countries.
miss direct
misfungled
So turkey is going to invade the entire west? 
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
So turkey is going to invade the entire west?
Didn't the Ottomans try that a few times - "Gates of Vienna" and all that? Didn't go so well for them after that, as the empire decayed into the rump that is Turkey.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
I wonder. Are "money barons" the sort of people who are "International bankers", do you think?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh but it did take 237 years (1683-1920), a number of regional wars in particular in the balkans and greece, and a world war.
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d'you mean cosmopolitans?I wonder. Are "money barons" the sort of people who are "International bankers", do you think?
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
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Starry Wisdom
i thought turkey was climbing into bed with them, at least cosmopolitans of the zionist persuasionYep, those sorts of folks.
miss direct
misfungled
I prefer a margarita myself.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Good Muslim Turks associating with rootless Judaeo-Zionists!
Perish the thought, you blasphemous infidel! 
The great Erdo wouldn't sully himself by hanging around with "the auld enemy"!!! I wonder. Are "money barons" the sort of people who are "International bankers", do you think?
This is a good one. Especially for a "left wing" forum. Anyone who doesn't like international bankers is anti-semitic. Right.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Thanks for showing yourself up.
I'll leave others to point out how you've shown yourself up.
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Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Unless you're a coprophile.
when you're in the shit stop digging
coley
Well-Known Member
Aye, you'd have a bliddy good chance of success at the mo,we could possibly have some limited successes defending the more 'blue rinse' parts of the Home Counties, but your invading hordes would be finally checked by the barrage of empty 'broon ale bottles' when you arrived at the banks of the Tyne.
camouflage
gaslit at scale.
Anytime "international banksters" get mentioned, things only go one of two ways... masons or jews, or rather masons and then jews. Nobody's mentioned "Social Justice Warriors" yet, or "Liberals", or "Cultural Marxists" and "feminazis", but "international banksters" can usually be expected to get the ball rolling on the yer average tinternets. Round it all off with "white genocide" and "the Islamization of Europe" for completes. Yootube commentology 101 really.
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ManchesterBeth
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This is because of kemalist secularism that the liberal wankers always applaud which wasn't so much a separation of religion and state but greater authoritarian control of religion under a turkish nationalist state configuration.
This is why it makes little sense to conflate western liberal democracy with the predominant formality that is turkish democracy. Islamists integrated into, and were crucial to, the neoliberal project in Turkey. True secularism was never practiced in Turkey and Erdogan is undeniably shaped by Kemalism.
Either way, democracy is not an eternal principle.
ManchesterBeth
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Well, for one thing, the centre left party is the party of the kemalist elite and have a conflicted relationship with other communities such as alevis.
Some of the Alevis I have spoken to vote for the CHP due to antagonism resulting from sunni subjugation even though Kemalists have historically been the main institutional oppressors of alevis and other secularists.
One should also not forget the significant demographic of more islamic kurds who vote for the AKP because of ideas of transnational islamic representation.
Ethnic turks are actually a small part of the turkish population taken together.
Today, German broadcaster n-tv reports, that the government considers German journalists and human rights activists held by Turkish authorities under the suspect of terrorism support to be hostages rather than regular prisoners. The Turkish government apparently uses them to pressure Germany to extradite a couple of Turkish generals who applied for political asylum in Germany after the failed coup. That this autocracy is still tolerated as a member of NATO is embarrassing. In the meantime, the German foreign ministry has issued a travel warning for Turkey.
ManchesterBeth
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It's nuts but this slimey fucker was pro-government until the end of 2013, big Zaman columnist.
nuffsaid
But this goes up to 11
Now Erdogan is asking all Muslims to protect Jerusalem by visiting it and expressing their rights to visit the al-Aqsa mosque.
Talk about poking a stick at a hornet's nest.
Erdogan just urged all Muslims to visit Jerusalem to protect holy mosque
Talk about poking a stick at a hornet's nest.
Erdogan just urged all Muslims to visit Jerusalem to protect holy mosque
mojo pixy
...שלא נמצא בשמאל
While in Jerusalem itself, a continued boycott of the mosque is being urged till what Israel has just done to the place is properly clear.
Should make for some interesting chats in Istanbul next week.
Should make for some interesting chats in Istanbul next week.
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