2016 Coup in Turkey?

[8den]

Some speculation on my part: please tell me if it's an hysterical overreaction, or a likely (or even just possible) scenario.

Erdogan will now use his political capital to kill off Kemalism as the hegemonic, official ideology of Turkey - 'kill off' both metaphorically and literally.

I'm not familiar with Kemalism as a philosophy but considering how he's rounding up his politcial enemies it seems Erdogan is engaging typical counter revolutionary reaction

 

[TomUS]

Some speculation on my part: please tell me if it's an hysterical overreaction, or a likely (or even just possible) scenario.

Erdogan will now use his political capital to kill off Kemalism as the hegemonic, official ideology of Turkey - 'kill off' both metaphorically and literally.

I think it's likely. Erdogan's "democracy" will become even more of a farce. The Islamists are elated.

The fear now is that he will exploit the uprising not only to purge the army but to intensify his undeclared war on the Kurdish minority in the south-east, to lash out at pro-Kurdish and other opposition politicians (who have unanimously condemned the coup), to bludgeon through controversial constitutional changes enhancing his presidential powers, and increase his government’s harassment of independent media, journalists and academics.

For Turkey's sake, Erdoğan should resist desire for revenge

 

[Idris2002]

I'm not familiar with Kemalism as a philosophy but considering how he's rounding up his politcial enemies it seems Erdogan is engaging typical counter revolutionary reaction

Kemalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Anju]

That in itself could lead to another proper coup in future..if there's anyone left in the army to carry it out once the sultan has finished his purge. This inept business seems more like a tremor rather than the real thing .
Erdogan has actually called it " a gift from God " . Turkey is about to go into a very dark place . No doubt about that .

Was about to "like" your post but that seems inappropriate given what you are saying. .

 

[miss direct]

Nah. This is nothing. I'm on my way there next week.

It's so much of nothing, I even suspect that Erdogan is behind the whole business.

It's not nothing with hundreds dead and people terrified. It's like psychological warfare. My salary is paid by the government and I am not sure how many more times I can walk into a classroom the day after a massive bomb or one of our students having been killed and just try to be normal. Of course, at least as a Brit I have the choice and luxury of being able to leave.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Take care miss direct

 

[8den]

Kemalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'll have to read up on it later, it's essentially secular nationalism isnt it?

 

[Manter]

2,700 judges arrested

 

[mystic pyjamas]

A very convenient coup.
Everything seems to have fallen right into his lap.
Another Reichstag stitch up maybe?

 

[Buckaroo]

2,700 judges arrested

What? Link!

 

[butchersapron]

I believe they were suspended rather than arrested after a couple of judges/officials were removed from the highest panel authority overseeing judicial appointments. Then the suspensions followed almost immediately. That was very early this morning - so one of his first revenge steps.

 

[Manter]

What? Link!

Only English language link I can find is Hala Jaber

Kurdish links say dismissed then detained, or asked to 'attend questioning'


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[Idris2002]

I'll have to read up on it later, it's essentially secular nationalism isnt it?

Well, it was.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Kurdish Movement Releases Statement on Turkey Coup Attempt

 

[butchersapron]

Reuters on judges.

edit: he's been gunning for them some time saying their investigation into his party and govt networks corruption is Gulen led or instigated. They've been being punitively removed for some time now.

 

[8den]

Well, it was.

 

[Idris2002]

A very convenient coup.
Everything seems to have fallen right into his lap.
Another Reichstag stitch up maybe?

I think most historians are agreed that the Reichstag fire wasn't a provocation.

 

[8den]

I'm not sure how you manage to order the purging up of 2,700 judges less than 24 hours after the coup starts.
Unless you already have their names. On a list. Called "My Enemies".

 

[8den]

Speaking of people with a vast list of enemies; where's Dwyer at?

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Prime Minister Binali Yıldırım, after people chanting "We want death penalty": "We got the message."

Also many people chants "We don't want PKK in the parliament!" (meaning HDP). It doesn't matter if they have nothing to do with any of this.

 

[Manter]

I'm not sure how you manage to order the purging up of 2,700 judges less than 24 hours after the coup starts.
Unless you already have their names. On a list. Called "My Enemies".

Military being detained first and sorted out later

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[Anju]

Speaking of people with a vast list of enemies; where's Dwyer at?

On his way to Turkey.

 

[8den]

Military being detained first and sorted out later

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Military i can understand, judiciary seems like a power move.

 

[Idris2002]

Edward Luttwak on the coup:

Why Turkey’s Coup d’État Failed

 

[teqniq]

I am thinking that these things are not unconnected





U.S. Troops at Turkish Air Base on 'Condition Delta'

U.S. troops at Turkey’s Incirlik air base were at the highest force protection level, known as "condition Delta," after the power was cut off at the base and the Turkish government closed the airspace around the site just hours after a foiled military coup attempt, a U.S. official told ABC News today....

 

[Sifta]

If Erdogan sends his street people to the US embassy we'll see some fun

 

[Sifta]

"Turkish Uprising" - smoking gun

 

[Mr.Bishie]

All kicking off in the Alevi & Kurdish community of Gezi. Under attack from Islamists & police.

Massive crowd of Erdogan supporters out on the streets tonight too

 

[ruffneck23]

And so ww3 begins ( I really really hope I'm joking )