Why is Urban Pol full of racist threads?
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rauscher said:
This is a rather racist post in itself. I suppose you think black people have 'rhythm'...
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MC5 said:
That is a post from a disconnected ignorant idiot.
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Mallard said:
Doesn't actually make coherent sense?
MC5 said:
Me and my friends and family, working class people.
MC5 said:
how many unemployed people are there is this country? ..
and what is their ethnic make up?
ok i'll answer the q. for you
between 3 and 4 million people are either properly jobseeking/ put on long term sick to keep them off figures/ doing bullshit college courses
ethnicity? pretty mixed i'd say .. around here predominantly afro-caribbean ..
these are the people who neo-liberalism is passing over in favour of EU low wage workers .. and whose existance you seem to ignore .. what should they do?
Mallard said:
interesting qoute .. so how are you changing the world?
and what is it that you dislike about mechanistic marxism so much?
and have you not noticed that the so called white w/c that we so er worship stopped being white about 30 years ago .. no we just worship any old w/c
durruti02 said:
In much more positive ways than yourself by the sounds of it keyboard warrior
durruti02 said:
You're asking that with your log in name? It's another thread but imo marxism is not an all encompassing panacea and has not aged well. Your correctly spelt inspiration may have mentioned power realationships as more pertinent here.
durruti02 said:and have you not noticed that the so called white w/c that we so er worship stopped being white about 30 years ago .. no we just worship any old w/c
I have but don't share your obsession with immigration/migration. There's a lot of talk of defending 'ordinary working people' on here when 'white' is what's actually being inferred. I'm not suggesting that you 'worship any old w/c' as you appear to fear and mistrust the majority outside your artificially created national borders.
) since that time.I haven't followed this thread, but BB is absolutely right, this board had turned into a pile of shite. Just when I looked at what was being discussed at the time of this post, and we had:
'What the BNP really say about immigration'
'thousands being watched by police for terror plots'
'Is it time to REALLY piss off the left on immigration'
'What's wrong with nationalism?'
And an anti-immigrant thread called 'Four out of Five immigrants'
I'm paraphrasing these cos I looked and then posted of course.
Fuck this shit.
'What the BNP really say about immigration'
'thousands being watched by police for terror plots'
'Is it time to REALLY piss off the left on immigration'
'What's wrong with nationalism?'
And an anti-immigrant thread called 'Four out of Five immigrants'
I'm paraphrasing these cos I looked and then posted of course.
Fuck this shit.
Mallard said:In much more positive ways than yourself by the sounds of it keyboard warrior
You're asking that with your log in name? It's another thread but imo marxism is not an all encompassing panacea and has not aged well. Your correctly spelt inspiration may have mentioned power realationships as more pertinent here.
again way to enigmatic for me .. spell it out
I have but don't share your obsession with immigration/migration. There's a lot of talk of defending 'ordinary working people' on here when 'white' is what's actually being inferred. I'm not suggesting that you 'worship any old w/c' as you appear to fear and mistrust the majority outside your artificially created national borders.
no .. white is NOT being inferred at all .. that is YOUR prejudiuce .. where i live is predominatly BLACK and it is them who are at the bottem of the pile
i am creating NO borders national or otherwise .. i am merely stating that workers power is based in the workplace and labour power and in communities/estates .. any attack on them must be resisited and currently it is NOT .. PARTLY due to an idiotic misunderstanding that for ordinary people to stand up for themslves is racist .. bullshit ..
anyone who thinks global without acting local will get nowhere .. YES have global perspective but any REAL change will come from the base ..
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because they tell the truth instead of pandering to racism?durruti02 said:
MC5 said:
ultimately yes of course .. but practically here and now what you write is meaningless .. you are ignoring what the bosses are doing here .. to say unite and fight when they are replacing workers with cheap labour is menaingless .. sure when people are here .. recruit them etc etc etc but equally we must confront the whole process
i am asking everyone this ..
if your boss plans to sack you all and replace you with low wage earners ( immigrant or other) you do NOT wait till he has done so and then say 'hey lets unite and fight' .. you fight there and then for your work .. no???????
ResistanceMP3 said:because they tell the truth instead of pandering to racism?
rmp3 who is pandering to racism?? i live in a largely BLACK ( and unemployed ) neigbourhood .. it is THEY who are sufferring ..
and what the fck racist do i have against poles?????
mate you make me despair .. there IS NO RACISM in this arguement ..
sorry didn't get your post .. so yo are anti w/c as well???? w/c people don't like the left becuase the left tell the truth / uphoders of moral standards ete etc .. what crap
gerry healy ??? x harman ?? degsy?? tommy ???
TremulousTetra
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you need to chill dur, lighten up a bit. You and Tommy are beginning to sound like born-again Christians, preaching the gospel. There are other topics you can discuss as well you know.
ResistanceMP3 said:
fair play i know .. i'm writing a speech to close my involvement in these debates! it has not been good for my health! .. but if peeps on here stopped suggestting/ implying or whatever, that i and others who argue this are raicst/bnpers then yes we could move on ..
especillay people like you who know what is being argued , and yes have POLITICAL disagreements but KNOW it is not coming from a right wing OR racist perspective
TremulousTetra
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but you constantly misinterpret what is said to you. Pandering to racism, is not being racist, for example.durruti02 said:
.. but if peeps on here stopped suggestting/ implying or whatever, that i and others who argue this are raicst/bnpers then yes we could move on ..
especillay people like you who know what is being argued , and yes have POLITICAL disagreements but KNOW it is not coming from a right wing OR racist perspective
edited to add.
PS. I am not surprised about your health. You cannot take debates to seriously on the Internet boards. There possibly one of the worst mediums to have a honest discussion on. They seem to breed confusion, irritation and the worst in people, in my experience.
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durruti02 said:
I once worked for an employer that actually made all it's existing workforce re-apply for their jobs. Most people were appalled by this move. Unfortunately they decided not to fight this, but chose to leave instead. The employer, now in a panic because they had a staff crisis, advertised some posts £2,000 and £3,000 above the rate they were paying previously to those employees who had left. The excersise was to try and reduce costs and instead costs increased.
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MC5 said:
What an idiot. If he was going to do that he should have seen the potential problems and recuirted scab labour in advance. Could have saved himself thousands.
Seriiously though this 'reapply for your own job' bollocks is a way of causing worker to turn against worker. And 9/10 times it seems to work.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by durruti02
"i am asking everyone this ..
if your boss plans to sack you all and replace you with low wage earners ( immigrant or other) you do NOT wait till he has done so and then say 'hey lets unite and fight' .. you fight there and then for your work .. no??????? "
MC5 replied
I once worked for an employer that actually made all it's existing workforce re-apply for their jobs. Most people were appalled by this move. Unfortunately they decided not to fight this, but chose to leave instead. The employer, now in a panic because they had a staff crisis, advertised some posts £2,000 and £3,000 above the rate they were paying previously to those employees who had left. The excersise was to try and reduce costs and instead costs increased.
that did not answewr the question did it?
Originally Posted by durruti02
"i am asking everyone this ..
if your boss plans to sack you all and replace you with low wage earners ( immigrant or other) you do NOT wait till he has done so and then say 'hey lets unite and fight' .. you fight there and then for your work .. no??????? "
MC5 replied
I once worked for an employer that actually made all it's existing workforce re-apply for their jobs. Most people were appalled by this move. Unfortunately they decided not to fight this, but chose to leave instead. The employer, now in a panic because they had a staff crisis, advertised some posts £2,000 and £3,000 above the rate they were paying previously to those employees who had left. The excersise was to try and reduce costs and instead costs increased.
that did not answewr the question did it?
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