Who will win the 2024 US election?

[planetgeli]

There was a big upsurge on this thread poll yesterday and the day before for Harris.

Why?

It went from 55-45 to nearly 60-40. I didn't see anything to justify that.

 

[dshl]

There was a big upsurge on this thread poll yesterday and the day before for Harris.

Why?

It went from 55-45 to nearly 60-40. I didn't see anything to justify that.

def rigged

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

There was a big upsurge on this thread poll yesterday and the day before for Harris.

Why?

It went from 55-45 to nearly 60-40. I didn't see anything to justify that.

This is a clear case of outside foreign interference in the US presidential election. Trump will use urban's propaganda as the primary excuse for the next riot and coup d'etat.

 

[Serge Forward]

The first result is in, from a wobble-top town called Dixville Notch, that has just 6 voters, all votes were in within 15 minutes of the poll opening, so they've been able to declare - 3 for Harris / 3 for Trump.

I kid you not.

Dixville Notch Midnight Vote Split 3-3 Between Trump And Harris—But Small Town Is Not Much Of A Bellwether

As part of a long-running tradition, the small New Hampshire town became the first in America to declare its results for the 2024 election.

www.forbes.com

The hi-tech scoreboard -

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Extra thought, if I lived there, I'd definitely be giving it the old "Vote at midnight? But that's slippers and cocoa time. And I'm a bit knackered and need a lie in. I'll pop in around midday tomorrow if that's alright" (to spoil my ballot obvs)

 

[krtek a houby]

Extra thought, if I lived there, I'd definitely be giving it the old "Vote at midnight? But that's slippers and cocoa time. And I'm a bit knackered and need a lie in. I'll pop in around midday tomorrow if that's alright" (to spoil my ballot obvs)

Keep an eye out for the surge, Serge

 

[frogwoman]

The haters and losers of failing fake news Urban75 are trying to steal the election with their rigged polls. Sad!

 

[Sue]

The haters and losers of failing fake news Urban75 are trying to steal the election with their rigged polls. Sad!

Bad people. Very, very bad people. Stupid people.

 

[frogwoman]

Bad people. Very, very bad people. Stupid people.

The worst we've had in the history of our country. Unbelievable.

 

[cupid_stunt]

There was a big upsurge on this thread poll yesterday and the day before for Harris.

Why?

It went from 55-45 to nearly 60-40. I didn't see anything to justify that.

The last few days have seen little flickers of hope, see THIS POST.

 

[VivaE]

Bad people. Very, very bad people. Stupid people.

Garbage people.

 

[dshl]

all that matters is who runs the elections, and who counts the votes, and who decides what those votes mean.

Is it posible to change the thread title and poll:

Who will win the 2024 US election?​

to

Who will rig the 2024 US election?​

 

[belboid]

 

[brogdale]

Lots of crib sheets etc. out there for those intending to follow the results; this is one that might be useful?

 

[frogwoman]

I'm afraid I'm far less sanguine about what the polling says - because I'm less convinced than ever that the votes matter.

I'm afraid I take the view that radicalised MAGA activist penetration of the district & state electoral system is such that the votes in those places just don't matter, that all that matters is who runs the elections, and who counts the votes, and who decides what those votes mean.

I'm not particularly convinced that who wins the election is relevant to the question of who is going to be president come the end of January.

You probably know more about this than me, but is it that easy to rig votes, even in Republican controlled areas? Who is counting them? Don't both parties have to send observers at the count?

 

[frogwoman]

Trump staffer fired from Republican party for being a white supremacist

Luke Meyer, who had worked as a regional field director, reportedly co-hosts a podcast that promotes racist ideology

www.theguardian.com

Wouldn't they have to fire Trump himself in that case?

 

[kebabking]

You probably know more about this than me, but is it that easy to rig votes, even in Republican controlled areas? Who is counting them? Don't both parties have to send observers at the count?

It's not what the votes are, or what you can prove, or what the other guy can prove eventually, it's what you can state with conviction for long enough to get your guy over the line.

 

[PTK]

The first result is in, from a wobble-top town called Dixville Notch, that has just 6 voters, all votes were in within 15 minutes of the poll opening, so they've been able to declare - 3 for Harris / 3 for Trump.

I kid you not.

Dixville Notch Midnight Vote Split 3-3 Between Trump And Harris—But Small Town Is Not Much Of A Bellwether

As part of a long-running tradition, the small New Hampshire town became the first in America to declare its results for the 2024 election.

www.forbes.com

The hi-tech scoreboard -

View attachment 449786

That is an example of an undemocratic process. Declarations as an election proceeds can influence the final result. Why is there one box for Stein and Oliver, who are from the Green Party and the Libertarian Party?

 

[frogwoman]

It's not what the votes are, or what you can prove, or what the other guy can prove eventually, it's what you can state with conviction for long enough to get your guy over the line.

are they really able to do this though? I don't really know how election night works there but are there such things as election observers from each party watching that no votes get mislaid etc?

 

[frogwoman]

That is an example of an undemocratic process. Declarations as an election proceeds can influence the final result. Why is there one box for Stein and Oliver, who are from the Green Party and the Libertarian Party?

I agree. Seems really weird.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

It's not what the votes are, or what you can prove, or what the other guy can prove eventually, it's what you can state with conviction for long enough to get your guy over the line.

Historically, this has only applied to genuinely tight contests, though. The actual stolen election was 2000. Gore won that. Bush's brother delivered Florida through dishonest means and eventually the Dems gave up the legal challenge. But if it hadn't been genuinely tight, that wouldn't have worked.

 

[belboid]

Why is there one box for Stein and Oliver, who are from the Green Party and the Libertarian Party?

because they knew that no one was going to vote for them, I imagine.

 

[belboid]

Historically, this has only applied to genuinely tight contests, though. The actual stolen election was 2000. Gore won that. Bush's brother delivered Florida through dishonest means and eventually the Dems gave up the legal challenge. But if it hadn't been genuinely tight, that wouldn't have worked.

1960 as well