US election 2020 thread

[JTG]

(that's roughly what Obama got there in '08 btw)

 

[JTG]

GA senate Streathamite

 

[bimble]

I don't know about that - I'm just sceptical of there being any link between childhood bullying and political affiliation later on in life. Those kinds of links are usually made by people who are still bitter about the hard time they had as a kid, and want bullies & bullying to be an indication of something deeper than it actually is.

I dont know either, and i probably am a bit bitter still but trumpism isn't a normal political movement, i mean who are these people what motivates them, its not his policies i don't think or that they admire the man its something weirder.

 

[killer b]

Whats that got to do with childhood bullying though?

 

[JTG]

Mike Bloomberg is splashing out $15m on Biden ads in Ohio and Texas in the last week of the campaign. Which is the act of a man going for the landslide and no longer in any doubt as to who has won the closer states

 

[frogwoman]

I imagine that some trump supporters imagine their getting back at people for bullying them as kids tbh. I'm not sure it correlates in any significant way.

 

[bimble]

Trump is like the bully in chief that's his whole appeal ? The rallying call is a violent fuck you to the weaklings, the soft, the not-us. It's a weird to me that you don't see what i see, especially with the women supporters, where it looks to me like only damaged and scared people are drawn to what they think is the shelter of being on the right side of trump. I do get that this is possibly just me trying to understand something that i find scary though in terms that i can almost have sympathy for.

 

[JTG]

Has to be said about TX that we're genuinely off the map in terms of what this turnout indicates. Never been a high turnout state, some very fast growing/changing counties, traditionally GOP but I read stuff about how much Trump is hated there by trad conservatives... but we just don't know who's voting here, it's never been like this before

 

[two sheds]

it's not just core trump supporters that are voting for him which I find concerning

(sorry, not relating to anything else really)

 

[teqniq]

Unfuckingbelievable:

 

[Cloo]

They sure do, Melania.

I agree bimble - the bullying is a big part of the appeal. There os a demographic, if not necessarily a massive one, that enjoys having a president who says the things they are angry they are 'not allowed' to say anymore (which they still say all the time anyway, of course) - the racism, misogyny and xenophobia. Damn right those uppity blacks, shrill, unfeminine women and criminal immigrants get put in their place, as far as these people are concerned.

 

[agricola]

I dont know either, and i probably am a bit bitter still but trumpism isn't a normal political movement, i mean who are these people what motivates them, its not his policies i don't think or that they admire the man its something weirder.
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rarely has the truth of Matthew 25:40 been more eloquently summed up in one image

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Trump is like the bully in chief that's his whole appeal ? The rallying call is a violent fuck you to the weaklings, the soft, the not-us. It's a weird to me that you don't see what i see, especially with the women supporters, where it looks to me like only damaged and scared people are drawn to what they think is the shelter of being on the right side of trump. I do get that this is possibly just me trying to understand something that i find scary though in terms that i can almost have sympathy for.

I remember an interview with a female Trump supporter when he ran the first time that stuck with me. She said "Trump is hurting the wrong people." As usual, the reporter missed the obvious next question: "Who are the right people?"

 

[Streathamite]

Just want to introduce to you our newest swing state... Montana

Fucking Sodding hell!
what's going on - have they enfranchised the horses?

 

[Streathamite]

Not been to Texas but yeah, they're both just the Big City aren't they? Houston the third biggest administration in the US

In the case of both Dallas and Houston, I'd say you've not missed much to give cause for regret. Rich, corporate, sterile and utterly soulless, IMO.
Austin, OTOH...

 

[Jeremiah18.17]

He’s not even keeping quiet about what he would like to do. “If he decides” -

 

[JTG]

Fucking Sodding hell!
what's going on - have they enfranchised the horses?

Montana's a bit to the left of the other Mountain West states tbf and most counties have gone all-mail ballot this time so turn out is soaring. And as I said, Obama got that close in '08

 

[littlebabyjesus]

They sure do, Melania.

I agree bimble - the bullying is a big part of the appeal. There os a demographic, if not necessarily a massive one, that enjoys having a president who says the things they are angry they are 'not allowed' to say anymore (which they still say all the time anyway, of course) - the racism, misogyny and xenophobia. Damn right those uppity blacks, shrill, unfeminine women and criminal immigrants get put in their place, as far as these people are concerned.

Tbh I'm struggling to resist Godwin's law here. Any excuse people had for being taken in by Trump last time - pissed off, disaffected, alienated, whatever - doesn't apply this time. If he loses this time but still gets 60 million votes, that's still pretty depressing. How are they different from the millions of Germans who loved Hitler?

 

[Streathamite]

GA senate Streathamite

YESSS!!!!!
Go raph, Go jon!
What's notable is that Collins and Loeffler together are polling less than warnock. That state is swinging
e2a: Collins and Loeffler put together that is

 

[Streathamite]

Has to be said about TX that we're genuinely off the map in terms of what this turnout indicates. Never been a high turnout state, some very fast growing/changing counties, traditionally GOP but I read stuff about how much Trump is hated there by trad conservatives... but we just don't know who's voting here, it's never been like this before

Agreed, TX is in totally new teritory. Only a fool would call anything there

 

[gentlegreen]

 

[JTG]

YESSS!!!!!
Go raph, Go jon!
What's n otable is that Collins and Loeffler together are polling less than warnock. That state is swinging

Yup, they've been trying to outflank each other to the right and Warnock has gobbled up almost the entire Dem vote. Not a million miles off avoiding a run off now

 

[JTG]

Anyway, this has been such a crazy rollercoaster ride, it's simply impossible to tell who's gonna win at this stage

 

[spitfire]

That's glorious.

Does anyone know vaguely what time that election will get finished counting?

Is it NC?

 

[JTG]

That's glorious.

Does anyone know vaguely what time that election will get finished counting?

Is it NC?

SC

 

[two sheds]

How do you know all this stuff JTG?

 

[JTG]

How do you know all this stuff JTG?

I read a lot!

 

[two sheds]

Where do you live again? (if I can ask)

 

[Streathamite]

Is it NC?

SC - but as it happens, Tillis (Republican incumbent Senator in NC) also looks on his way to geting beat.

 

[JTG]

Where do you live again? (if I can ask)

Bristol!

I think it's a combination of using social media, esp Twitter, but also having a halfway decent mental filter to assess what info 'seems' correct/useful and what doesn't. I have a mediocre history degree but one thing it taught me was how to assess sources of evidence and use them

Also, I'm an info sponge