US election 2020 thread

[existentialist]

Pretty deranged even for Trump:

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Shockingly, that seems pretty normal for Trump. Aren't we all used to the fact that he just pulls whatever he wants to say out of his arse, regardless of context or how it sits with previous arse-originated nonsense, by now?

I really, really hope that when said arse is handed to him on election day, he disappears into obscurity, never to be heard from again. He really is a man with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

 

[JTG]

welp

Pa. has rejected 372,000 ballot applications — most of them duplicates — bewildering voters

Most rejected applications were deemed duplicates because voters had checked a request box during the primary. The administrative nightmare highlights the difficulty of ramping up mail-in voting.

www.inquirer.com

Suggests this is because these people had already requested one so should get one anyway?

 

[frogwoman]

Maybe he meant cancelled due to covid? Although he's still going to be president on December 25th as the inauguration isnt until January.

 

[Hollis]

Some interesting analysis to argue Trump ain't dead yet..

 

[JTG]

More on early voting figures:

Early Vote Analysis for Sunday, Oct. 18

electproject.github.io

Takeaways:
There is a huge increase in early voting - 28m votes cast now compared to 6m at the same stage in 2016
Where party registration data is available, Dems have a huge numerical advantage in the mail vote and a smaller advantage for in-person voting
The Trump campaign has been chucking money away trying to get their supporters to request mail ballots and return them while their President has been doing his level best to discourage them from doing so
Meanwhile the Dems can cross more names off their targeting lists and focus on the remaining voters they want to turn out
Election day will doubtless be swamped by GOP voters but random factors such as weather events or Covid could affect ability and inclination to vote. Better to have votes in the counting centres already

 

[Kaka Tim]

Some interesting analysis to argue Trump ain't dead yet..

not much actual evidence there though and plenty the other way. not least the fact that trump is acting very much like someone who believes he is losing.

 

[JTG]

Some interesting analysis to argue Trump ain't dead yet..

I wouldn't expect much to change the race from here on in terms of events. There's one debate left and whatever the GOP want to do in smear stories. Doubt that the FBI will intervene in quite such a dramatic fashion this time around. The race has been stable for months, the most boring sets of polling data I've ever seen in an election campaign. Yes, polls don't always pick up every single group but if there was any sign of people being persuadable one way or the other, or a particular group moving one way or the other then you'd expect there to be some kind of flicker of the needle. But there isn't one.

So it's all about GOTV for the last two weeks

 

[brogdale]

Some interesting analysis to argue Trump ain't dead yet..

'Hedge-fund' journalism

 

[JTG]

Turnout in Houston now approaching 50% of 2016 total

 

[TomUS]

Shockingly, that seems pretty normal for Trump. Aren't we all used to the fact that he just pulls whatever he wants to say out of his arse, regardless of context or how it sits with previous arse-originated nonsense, by now?

I really, really hope that when said arse is handed to him on election day, he disappears into obscurity, never to be heard from again. He really is a man with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

He'll get a TV show, maybe on Fox News, and rake in millions and rail against Biden, Obama, Hillary, the media, the deep state and the "leftists" that are behind them all.

 

[Cloo]

He'll have a lucrative career speaking at conferences of fringe loons about how he was the best President and it was so unfair he lost because obviously the dems cheated because they were so jealous of how much everyone loved him

 

[moochedit]

He will probably takeover Rush Limbaugh's radio slot when it becomes available.

 

[a_chap]

More lunacy...

 

[Streathamite]

More lunacy...

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completely fucking demented

 

[JTG]

Drive Thru voting is the future

Drive-thru voting locations in Harris Co. see greater numbers than in-person voting

"I went through the drive-thru, total in-and-out (was) 15 minutes," a Houston voter said.

abc13.com

 

[Raheem]

Drive Thru voting is the future

Drive-thru voting locations in Harris Co. see greater numbers than in-person voting

"I went through the drive-thru, total in-and-out (was) 15 minutes," a Houston voter said.

abc13.com

"Early indications are that quarter-pounder with cheese has a solid lead..."

 

[moochedit]

More lunacy...

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completely fucking demented

Anyone stupid enough to believe that is already a hardcore Trump cult voter anyway.

 

[Streathamite]

Drive Thru voting is the future

Drive-thru voting locations in Harris Co. see greater numbers than in-person voting

"I went through the drive-thru, total in-and-out (was) 15 minutes," a Houston voter said.

abc13.com

Yes, and why not? Fit the electoral system to the needs and circumstances of the people, strikes me as pretty sensible

 

[spring-peeper]

 

[Dogsauce]

As long as you have access to a car, which pretty much everyone does in the US tbf.

 

[Raheem]

As long as you have access to a car, which pretty much everyone does in the US tbf.

Not really true in a lot of urban areas.

 

[moochedit]

Yes, and why not? Fit the electoral system to the needs and circumstances of the people, strikes me as pretty sensible

Could be a problem with 2 or more people in the car seeing each others votes though.

 

[NoXion]

That is not what "86" means. It's used in the US service industry to mean cancelling a job or order.

That guy is trying to incite shit.

 

[JTG]

As long as you have access to a car, which pretty much everyone does in the US tbf.

They're not all drive thru anyway - 122 different places to early vote in the county and registered voters can use any of them

 

[Streathamite]

As long as you have access to a car, which pretty much everyone does in the US tbf.

It's nowhere near everyone, in truth, or not in the urban areas. However, enough do to make it viable, as one of a whole set of different options.

 

[Streathamite]

Could be a problem with 2 or more people in the car seeing each others votes though.

I would imagine that, if they are together in the same car, that there's a fair amount of trust there. It's not like you give lifts to the drive-through polling station to your most loathed and implacable foe.

 

[two sheds]

fifth columnists

 

[JTG]

Mate of mine follows NASCAR and reckons he saw a Lincoln Project (group of current & former Republicans aiming to prevent the re-election of Trump) ad yesterday. No Trump ads at all when in 2016 it was wall to wall Hillary bashing. Trump campaign is being outspent in the air war by Biden and the same goes for the PACs

 

[JTG]

Some thoughts for the "but 2016" people

In 2012 Mitt Romney was leading for a while and the polls at the end of the campaign actually underestimated the Obama vote
In 1980 it seemed close until the single debate. The bottom fell out for the incumbent in the last stage of the campaign and it was a blow out for the challenger - Ronald Reagan.
Labour lost the 1992 General Election in fairly traumatic circumstances and Tony Blair was apparently terrified of a similar thing happening in 1997 despite huge polling leads throughout. It was, of course, a landslide

It's not always the doomsday scenario you think it is

ETA: yeah I know Reagan was worse than Carter! Badly worded.

 

[belboid]

In 1980 it seemed close until the single debate. The bottom fell out for the incumbent in the last stage of the campaign and it was a blow out for the challenger - Ronald Reagan.

The Iranian hostage debacle had more of an effect in the result that the debate, I suspect.