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Trump acknowledged that a new administration would take office, but said: "I want you to know that the movement we started is only just beginning."
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.......and that's why binden cant let things slide with trump because the republicans are begging appeasement for the sake of the "countrys unity" ( ie trumps rabid base not voting for them)

Bindens not even in yet and I already feel an undertone of disappointment.
 
Rutita1 said:
Ivanka has more chance I reckon as on the whole seems better regarded & not seen to have a coke habit but she's also known as Nepotism Barbie, who robs children's cancer charities and profits from sweatshops sooooo... :hmm:
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I'm not sure that being better regarded on the whole is necessarily an asset though is it? If any of them were going to run then their target audience has to be the Trump headbangers surely and they'll probably want the one who is most appalling to anyone else.
 
bimble said:
I’d appreciate if someone could spell out why they think the word fascist is not appropriate for trump.
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Might have missed it, but have we had this in this thread yet? The F Word: Is Donald Trump a fascist?

My first concern about using the word “fascism” now is that things could get much, much worse — and at that point, will we have the vocabulary to describe what is happening? I first heard fascism comparisons flying in American politics back in the mid-2000s...

Which for me raises the worry: If the “Bush is a fascist” meme had caught on more in the mid-2000s, would we have lost important terms to describe the escalation of these illiberal tendencies under Trump? Would condemnations of the Capitol insurrection have been dismissed as merely crying wolf from people who described lesser actions by Bush as fascist? And correspondingly, does using the term fascist now run the same risk?

It is not hard to imagine the Republican Party’s coalescing opposition to “one person, one vote” — in its defense of the Electoral College, or the slogan that we are “a republic, not a democracy” — getting even more extreme. One could imagine a Republican presidential nominee in 2040 or perhaps sooner building these themes into an explicit critique of constitutional government, a call for patriotic elites representing the interests of real (white) Americans to rule without the constraints of elections or Congress or courts.

One could imagine this presidential nominee forming a paramilitary group, initially just to “protect” his (it’ll probably be a “he”) supporters from antifa and socialist mobs. One could imagine, in other words, textbook fascism, and I worry using the term now will diminish its power if and when that turn comes.

That might be a minor concern; there will always be skeptics who will accuse anyone who uses the term “fascism,” however carefully, of “crying wolf.” Maybe it’s best not to worry about their allegation.

But I’m still not convinced fascism is the best comparison class. Fascism is not just a term, it’s an analogy to a specific moment in European history. And arguably the antidemocratic forces in America right now bear a slimmer resemblance to that moment than they do to previous instances of white supremacist politics in America.
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belboid said:
Looks like Joe is out of luck. Lil Wayne is happy though, as well as another corrupt af Democrat, Kwame Kilpatrick.
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Kirkpatrick has a sleazy history.Here's a podcast about a dancer murdered, possibly by cops, after being involved in a fracas at the Mayoral residence.

It's part of series "Crimetown" about Detroit, many of which seem to feature Kilpatrick, who seems to be a man after Trump's own heart.

This seems to be a kind of follow on, but I haven't listened to it yet.
‎Crimetown: Gary Brown v. Mayor of Detroit on Apple Podcasts
 
tim said:
Kirkpatrick has a sleazy history.Here's a podcast about a dancer murdered, possibly by cops, after being involved in a fracas at the Mayoral residence.

It's part of series "Crimetown" about Detroit, many of which seem to feature Kilpatrick, who seems to be a man after Trump's own heart.

This seems to be a kind of follow on, but I haven't listened to it yet.
‎Crimetown: Gary Brown v. Mayor of Detroit on Apple Podcasts
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Having listened to the podcast, the murder of the dancer is somewhat unclear. The corruption was blatant though
 
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Quite a good animation of how Biden won by NYTimes. The most telling bit is the way Biden sat back and watched Trump lose credibility over the pandemic by staying in his Wilmington bunker. In this circumstance you can let your opponent lose by doing nothing!
 
DJWrongspeed said:
Quite a good animation of how Biden won by NYTimes. The most telling bit is the way Biden sat back and watched Trump lose credibility over the pandemic by staying in his Wilmington bunker. In this circumstance you can let your opponent lose by doing nothing!
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"Oh look how well the liberal technocrat did!" say the liberal technocrats.
 
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