US election 2020 thread
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Raheem
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He's worried that the whole thing might blow up and hit the newsstands?
Nylock
I hate 'these days'...
The only surprise there will be if he doesn't
Republican pollster slams the President and blames him for upcoming 'historic losses' as GOP appears to give up on saving Sen Cory Gardner in Colorado
www.denverpost.com
With Gardner trailing Hickenlooper, national GOP groups scale back spending in Colorado
National Republican groups are spending far less in Colorado than in other battleground states this fall.
www.denverpost.com
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
He'll say what happened in Marseilles shows what democrats stand for and republicans oppose
petee
no gods, no malarkey
um ... this is ... good ...
www.cnn.com
Michigan bans open carrying of guns at polling sites on Election Day
Michigan will not allow the open carrying of guns at polling places, clerk's offices and other locations where absentee ballots are counted, Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson announced Friday.
www.cnn.com
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
they could add the French to the Ukrainian and Chinese connections
Yossarian
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um ... this is ... good ...
Michigan bans open carrying of guns at polling sites on Election Day
Michigan will not allow the open carrying of guns at polling places, clerk's offices and other locations where absentee ballots are counted, Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson announced Friday.
It's good that Trump supporters aren't allowed to actually bring their assault rifles along on election day in at least one of 50 states - in most countries where armed supporters of the ruling party are expected to intimidate voters at polling places, there'd be a good case for calling in United Nations observers, but it seems like this might be counterproductive in the US.
Yeah, many factors for the perfect storm I guess. Obvs the pandemic has encouraged a lot of people to vote remotely and there's been a slow rise in all-mail ballots - either entirely remotely or at least everyone being posted a ballot and then given different options to return it. It's widely seen as the most important election in US history as well.
Anyway, at least 24.3m votes have been cast now - 17.5% of the 2016 total - meaning around 6m voted yesterday. Not all states have started reporting, notably NY which will bump the total up considerably when it starts reporting. WA, OR & HI not reporting yet either and they're all entirely mail-in so should have high turn out
Dem internal poll has Doug Jones 1 point up in the defence of his Alabama Senate seat; LeanTossUp here pointing out that while he's probably still losing - he's a Dem in Alabama who only squeaked home previously because he was running against an actual paedophile - the fact that this poll even exists illustrates how badly the GOP are struggling
leantossup.ca
Doug Jones Probably Loses – But Only Probably
Well, the shock poll of the cycle is here, with a Doug Jones internal showing him up 1%, 48%-47%, over his GOP opponent (and failed football coach, as his ads point out) Tommy Tuberville in the rac…
leantossup.ca
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
If Jones somehow hangs on that will be a stunning result, irrespective of what happens elsewhereDem internal poll has Doug Jones 1 point up in the defence of his Alabama Senate seat; LeanTossUp here pointing out that while he's probably still losing - he's a Dem in Alabama who only squeaked home previously because he was running against an actual paedophile - the fact that this poll even exists illustrates how badly the GOP are struggling
Doug Jones Probably Loses – But Only Probably
Well, the shock poll of the cycle is here, with a Doug Jones internal showing him up 1%, 48%-47%, over his GOP opponent (and failed football coach, as his ads point out) Tommy Tuberville in the rac…
Yeah, the article sets out how it's POSSIBLE - maximise turnout in the heavily black 7th district, do well in the Birmingham & Montgomery suburbs and don't get completely obliterated in rural districts - but it's a lot of ducks to get in a row
Streathamite
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No early voting in AL either, though they've still set a record for absentee voting this year. You can only get a absentee ballot in AL if you are ill or have a physical disability
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
Still, expect them to be queuing round the block and settling in for the long haul in Selma on the day
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
If that happens (and yes, I agreee it probably will), that will be a quite amazing image.
It seems to me all this voter suppression, USPS shenanigans, Trump's endless twitter campaign against mail-in ballots and generally undermining the whoole process has been massively counter-productive. All across the country, people seem fired up to vote, totally different to 2016.
I looked at NC's figures (every state reports differently so not always possible to compare them all) and 18% of their vote so far has come from people who didn't vote in 2016. Now obvs that's going to include young people etc who couldn't vote four years ago but it still seems high? idk, someone tell me I'm wrong
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
I've seen comments about the mail in return rate being comparatively low in heavily black counties in NC - and a possible explanation being that they were waiting for early voting to open so they could drop off in person to be sure. The system is not trusted there
Streathamite
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Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
increasingly confident that trump is going to get flattened.
Last time, his base, significant lack of enthusiasm for hillary clinton and a wish to disrupt the status quo for won it for him.
This time there seems to be big motivation to kick him out, a corresponding lack of enthusiasm from "soft" republican voters who may stay home and - I would guess - a wider wish for someone less demented cos of fears around the economy and covid.
That only leaves him his base and those who vote republican come what may - so 45% vs 55% sounds about right. Hopefully it will be a big enough result to stymie any plans he has of trying to dispute the result (although he will try that no matter what - and then we might actually see the republican party push him out before inauguration).
Last time, his base, significant lack of enthusiasm for hillary clinton and a wish to disrupt the status quo for won it for him.
This time there seems to be big motivation to kick him out, a corresponding lack of enthusiasm from "soft" republican voters who may stay home and - I would guess - a wider wish for someone less demented cos of fears around the economy and covid.
That only leaves him his base and those who vote republican come what may - so 45% vs 55% sounds about right. Hopefully it will be a big enough result to stymie any plans he has of trying to dispute the result (although he will try that no matter what - and then we might actually see the republican party push him out before inauguration).
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
It also leaves the hardcore racists still on his side - but even so, that's still not enough to get him over the line. I just hope the result is emphatic enough to preclude any chance of he and his nutjob ultra supporterstaking to the streets. if they do, things could turn very nasty indeed.
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bimble
floofy
There’s got to be an element of just exhaustion this time as well, after four years of this loon at the wheel I think a lot of people who maybe wanted the entertainment and disruption last time might find the idea of a normal boring president who doesn’t create crazy news every day quite appealing.
Streathamite
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I think that's quite a lot of the appeal. People have had enough of all the crazy, scary shit. Suddenly, bland and boring becomes attractive.
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