Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
tbf, WaPo, CNN, CBS, ABC, the nYT and NBC all have much higher standards of reportage than nearly all UK mainstram news outlets - the possible exceptions are the beeb, the Guardian and the Times
US election 2020 thread
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Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I think there are a few signs of GOP candidates distancing themselves from Trump already.
ska invita
back on the other side
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
Lots of 'em, in truth, on the downballot
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
As a matter of curiosity, why are the US news outlets I cited as non-credible as (say) Fox News, OAN, the NY Post and UK tabloids? I would say there's a quantum difference instandards of journalism and reportage there.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
… and a key issue in this election is whether the Dems get the Senate as well.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
Yep - looking good there too for at least a 50-50 split. Collins, McSally and Tillis must be very worried people, right now!
e2a: ditto, Lindsey Graham, who is being beaten hands down at fundraising by Jaime Harrison
strung out
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They need to be careful about some of those 'safe' Democrat seats. The Dems will probably lose their senator in Alabama, and while Michigan looks to be pretty clearly swaying towards Biden, the senate race is much closer and the Republicans have an opportunity to unseat a Democrat there, with only 1% between them. You'll see plenty of traditional republicans holding their nose to vote for Biden, but still voting red down the ticket to try and stop a senate majority for the Dems.
ska invita
back on the other side
i dont understand your question, but i think the point im making is obvious: yes there are differences, yes there are some good reporters within these mass organsations to different degrees...and yet Trump remains right: the mainstream media in totality is the opposition. Did you just see what happened to Corbyn across every platform? This isnt some new turn for the media - this is what its done for generations. If Corbyn had the guts he should have gone the same way: attacked the establishment up front like Trump does. After 2017 he had nothing to lose on that score.
Lets not carry this on further... too much of a derail
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
Ahh right...yes, i think we were talking at cross-purposes. i was talking about journalistic standards, you were talking about nthe role the media play in the broader political context. On that latter issue, I agree with you entirely.
Yes, it would derail it too much.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
Yes, good points.
Morning Consult polls out today for swing states, show a Biden lead of between 5-8 points in FL, MN, WI, NC, AZ, MI & PA. Only a 2-3 point lead (ie within the margin of error) in GA, OH & TX to cheer DT up. All numbers pretty static from when the same pollster did those states a month ago. Nothing's changing, the whole race has been static or a slowly growing lead for Biden for months
Yeah that MI poll caused a bit of a stir but more data needed I think. One or two polls aren't a trend. Besides which, there aren't enough 'traditional' GOP voters in MI to do what you say, it's just not a red state despite the tiny margin DT won it by four years ago.
Dems should pick up senators in AZ, CO & ME with NC & IA both looking pretty good for them too. They have a chance of gaining one in MT, one or even both GA seats and even KS and SC.
Balance that with the probable loss of AL and even if we throw MI into the mix as one the GOP could gain, it's still a 10-2 lead in terms of chances to gain seats in what looks like being a wave election. I'd say the Senate looks like going blue on balance, though a clean sweep of targets/defences would be a surprise
ETA: the Dems also have the advantage of defending far fewer seats than the GOP in this cycle and a high proportion of those just aren't under threat - NM, OR, IL, MN, various north eastern states etc just aren't going to be lost
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petee
no gods, no malarkey
likewise, mike pence is responsible for the fact that police are being killed by boogaloos.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
petee
no gods, no malarkey
bimble
floofy
it is amazing isn't it, the absolute brazenness of how they know that their best chance of winning is to make it as hard as possible for people to vote. I read
today that if you're black you are many times (can't remember exactly now what it said) more likely to have to stand in line for hours to cast your vote.
www.nbcnews.com
today that if you're black you are many times (can't remember exactly now what it said) more likely to have to stand in line for hours to cast your vote.
Early voting begins in Georgia with long lines, high turnout
Race is one of the strongest predictors of how long a person waits in line to vote, research shows.
www.nbcnews.com
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
The figure you remember seeing was 7.it is amazing isn't it, the absolute brazenness of how they know that their best chance of winning is to make it as hard as possible for people to vote. I read
today that if you're black you are many times (can't remember exactly now what it said) more likely to have to stand in line for hours to cast your vote.
Early voting begins in Georgia with long lines, high turnout
Race is one of the strongest predictors of how long a person waits in line to vote, research shows.
7 times more likely.
not-bono-ever
meh
trump slipped down to 2/1 now. whatever reflection that is of the real world, i dunno. meh
teqniq
DisMembered
Have we had this yet? Absolute clown.
m.washingtontimes.com
Sex Pistols singer John Lydon: ‘Of course I’m voting for Trump’
John Lydon, the rock singer who found infamy fronting the Sex Pistols during the iconic punk band’s heyday, is “of course” voting to reelect President Trump, he said in an interview Thursday.
moochedit
Mr Mooched It
Have we had this yet? Absolute clown.
Sex Pistols singer John Lydon: ‘Of course I’m voting for Trump’
John Lydon, the rock singer who found infamy fronting the Sex Pistols during the iconic punk band’s heyday, is “of course” voting to reelect President Trump, he said in an interview Thursday.
Didn't know he was a us citizen. Fucking idiot though.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
So sad. From a genuinely iconic, inspirational figure to a reactionary, contrarian clown.Have we had this yet? Absolute clown.
Sex Pistols singer John Lydon: ‘Of course I’m voting for Trump’
John Lydon, the rock singer who found infamy fronting the Sex Pistols during the iconic punk band’s heyday, is “of course” voting to reelect President Trump, he said in an interview Thursday.
In truth, Lydon stopped being relevant, or even interesting, by the mid 90s.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Have we had this yet? Absolute clown.
Sex Pistols singer John Lydon: ‘Of course I’m voting for Trump’
John Lydon, the rock singer who found infamy fronting the Sex Pistols during the iconic punk band’s heyday, is “of course” voting to reelect President Trump, he said in an interview Thursday.
Is John Lydon a twat?
Sex Pistols star Johnny Rotten has asked Los Angeles police officials to help him keep punk invaders from his Venice Beach home. The British rocker, aka John Lydon, has been living in California for years, but insists his permanent holiday in the sun is no longer fun as homeless fans target his...
www.urban75.net
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
I can believe that. His music's still great. Unfortunately, the screaming arsehole-great music axis is a strong and enduring one
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