US election 2020 thread

[spring-peeper]

Me and my wife applied for Canadian citizenship in 95. And yes, we found it was a stringent process.

Interesting.
Are you in Canada?


Only reason I'm here is because there was a "brain drain" and British engineers were in high demand. Dad is an engineer.

 

[spring-peeper]

Wayne County have just certified the election result. Overturning the earlier GOP canvassers blocking tactic.
But not before Stupid Trump tweeted how great it was to have courage in the system. Delusional, dangerous and narcissistic man.

After hours of angry responses from Wayne County residents, the change in course was approved by the two Republican and two Democratic canvassers with the demand that the Secretary of State's office conduct a "comprehensive audit" of "unexplained precincts."

Bawa ha ha

The people have spoken!!!!

 

[Sprocket.]

Interesting.
Are you in Canada?


Only reason I'm here is because there was a "brain drain" and British engineers were in high demand. Dad is an engineer.

No we are in the UK, I am a maintenance engineer and the company I worked for based in the uk had a few manufacturing hubs in Canada and the USA. But I was offered a better position here and family illness made it prudent to remain here.

 

[Sprocket.]

Anyway, hats off to the citizens of Wayne County and Detroit for standing up, being heard and persuading the GOP canvassers to change their votes.Racism has no place, blatant racism especially. Good job, well done.

 

[spring-peeper]

No we are in the UK, I am a maintenance engineer and the company I worked for based in the uk had a few manufacturing hubs in Canada and the USA. But I was offered a better position here and family illness made it prudent to remain here.

Re: health care - UK has more medical free stuff than ours does.
Based on that, you probably made the right choice.

 

[bimble]

With every day that goes by in this same mad way it seems more and more likely that we'll get to see the outgoing president being physically removed and carried across the lawn to the benny hill theme tune.

 

[Dogsauce]

Anyway, hats off to the citizens of Wayne County and Detroit for standing up, being heard and persuading the GOP canvassers to change their votes.Racism has no place, blatant racism especially. Good job, well done.

If they can’t stop people voting through voter suppression, they’ll always try disregarding their votes instead.

I’m disappointed that there isn‘t more noise on this point from the incoming administration, it’s literally anti-democratic (small ‘d’). ‘Black votes matter’ would be a good starting point.

 

[bimble]

Meanwhile, in the parallel universe next door, the big story today seems to be that that the US army, or maybe the CIA, just raided some office in Germany where some of the plotters against trump were hiding the evidence of their massive fraud on a 'server'.
Note: this did not happen.

It's pretty mindblowing to try to get head around what the longer term consequences are of "news" channels spreading stuff like this, for ratings & ad money.

 

[Serge Forward]

It's basically the Goebbels "big lie" technique, which seems to be their modus operandi.

 

[maomao]

It's basically the Goebbels "big lie" technique, which seems to be their modus operandi.

And of course the nazis lost in the end so it's all going to be okay.

 

[cupid_stunt]

If this is true, it would be bloody funny.

Georgia’s leading election official Brad Raffensperger, who has already faced the ire of Trump supporters for projecting a Biden victory in the state before a recount is complete, said the outgoing president’s unsubstantiated claims about the vulnerability of mail-in voting likely suppressed about 24,500 Republicans from casting their ballots.

"He would have won by 10,000 votes [but] he actually suppressed, depressed his own voting base," Mr Raffensperger said in an interview with WSB TV.

The secretary of state’s office went on to say that “ill-advised actions” during the campaign period contributed to suppressing the Republican vote.

Trump would have won Georgia by 10,000 if he hadn’t ‘suppressed his own voting base’, says official

President-elect Joe Biden received a significant boost as Trump discouraged mail-in voting

www.independent.co.uk

 

[JimW]

If this is true, it would be bloody funny.

Trump would have won Georgia by 10,000 if he hadn’t ‘suppressed his own voting base’, says official

President-elect Joe Biden received a significant boost as Trump discouraged mail-in voting

www.independent.co.uk

He's probably making it up for shits and giggles, as you would. Similar claims should be made in all the other close races.

 

[two sheds]

If this is true, it would be bloody funny.

Trump would have won Georgia by 10,000 if he hadn’t ‘suppressed his own voting base’, says official

President-elect Joe Biden received a significant boost as Trump discouraged mail-in voting

www.independent.co.uk

Trump will use that to prove that he actually won.

 

[JTG]

Only the third time since 1920 that the winner of Florida hasn't won the presidency. I can see why some people were losing their shit when it got called on the night!

FL currently one of only six states that have swung towards Trump - AR & UT probably a reversion to the mean after the Clinton & McMullan candidacies in '16, CA & IL only very tiny swings that could be wiped out when their counts are complete & NY still has millions to count so probably the same.
In other words, FL very much the outlier across the whole country

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

Trump will use that to prove that he actually won.

The truth is it's 20k potential Trump votes who didn't vote.

Then it will be 20k potential Trump votes who didn't vote, or maybe they did? A lot of people are saying it, there's been a lot of Dem dirty tricks. We just don't know.

Then it will be 20k definite Trump votes, where are they? Crooked count? RIGGED.

Then it will be the count was rigged, the recount was rigged, the audit was rigged. We can't and shouldn't accept Georgia's result. How can we? They stole 20k votes!

 

[littlebabyjesus]

The truth is it's 20k potential Trump votes who didn't vote.

The article doesn't say, so maybe he's just making it up, but Raff may be getting that figure by comparing turnouts and noting a lower turnout in certain red-leaning counties compared to blue-leaning ones. It's then an assumption that the non-voters would have voted Rep and that they didn't vote because of Trump's warnings about mail-in. Other explanations exist, such as that in Georgia, which had a higher turnout overall than 2016, the Democrats turned out their vote more effectively than the Republicans, motivated by other reasons such as hatred of Trump.

 

[JTG]

The article doesn't say, so maybe he's just making it up, but Raff may be getting that figure by comparing turnouts and noting a lower turnout in certain red-leaning counties compared to blue-leaning ones. It's then an assumption that the non-voters would have voted Rep and that they didn't vote because of Trump's warnings about mail-in. Other explanations exist, such as that in Georgia, which had a higher turnout overall than 2016, the Democrats turned out their vote more effectively than the Republicans, motivated by other reasons such as hatred of Trump.

In GA specifically, it looks like the black proportion of the electorate fell this year - I'm unclear on actual raw numbers but it seems likely that if black voters turned out in higher numbers than '16 they were outstripped by white voters in the Atlanta suburbs which swung heavily towards Biden. In all the various demographics, it looks like GA kept pace with the rest of the country in that everyone swung to Biden except with very small swings the other way in majority Hispanic and heavily black areas

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Obviously with such a small margin people can argue all week about whether it would have gone the other way if a few more people had turned out in rural white counties for eg but that's done now.

 

[JTG]

I guess that swings to Biden across the suburbs (a near universal phenomenon across the US) but Dem losses in the House would tend to support the hypothesis that support for the GOP remains relatively high compared to support for Trump specifically

 

[andysays]

It's basically the Goebbels "big lie" technique, which seems to be their modus operandi.

Even Joseph G would be embarrassed by the shit Trump and his boosters are coming out with now.

 

[SheilaNaGig]

Trump will use that to prove that he actually won.

Yeah, I’m not laughing about this own goal. If true, it’s a very crappy day for democracy, both in terms of what Georgia actually wants right now, and for the outcomes in the days/years ahead.


ETA Georgia is a bit peculiar, in that it’s a Deep South state, with all the attendant issues of that, but it’s also got Atlanta, which has a majority Black population, and plenty of Black affluence. The history of Atlanta is a sore spot for racist Southerners.

 

[MickiQ]

Meanwhile, in the parallel universe next door, the big story today seems to be that that the US army, or maybe the CIA, just raided some office in Germany where some of the plotters against trump were hiding the evidence of their massive fraud on a 'server'.
Note: this did not happen.

It's pretty mindblowing to try to get head around what the longer term consequences are of "news" channels spreading stuff like this, for ratings & ad money.

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We're in a parallel universe just not quite has bonkers as that one. In the real sane universe, Hilary Clinton has just been re-elected despite a presidency characterised by 4 years of mediocrity, Prime Minister Milliband has sent his congratulations

 

[JTG]

ETA Georgia is a bit peculiar, in that it’s a Deep South state, with all the attendant issues of that, but it’s also got Atlanta, which has a majority Black population, and plenty of Black affluence. The history of Atlanta is a sore spot for racist Southerners.

Aye, and also plenty of out-of-staters moving to Atlanta for work etc and bringing their non-Southern voting habits with them

 

[brogdale]

The extreme cognitive dissonance at the heart of the GOP campaign to retain their GA senate seats:

 

[cupid_stunt]

He's off on one again, just half an hour ago...



Reality is here >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump is here.

 

[MickiQ]

He's on a roll

 

[brogdale]

He's off on one again, just half an hour ago...



Reality is here >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump is here.

When I saw this earlier I thought...twitter barrage incoming, then?

 

[teqniq]

Witness corroborates claim that Lindsey Graham asked about tossing ballots in Georgia

 

[brogdale]

The extreme cognitive dissonance at the heart of the GOP campaign to retain their GA senate seats:

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[MickiQ]

Twitter haven't got round to flagging this with a disputed warning yet,
GET YER CRAZY ASS LIES WHILE THEY'RE STILL HOT!

 

[Benjamin F]

Biden's current winning margin over Trump (3.81%) in the popular vote is now greater than Leave's over Remain's (3.78%) in the 2016 Referendum. And likely to go higher. Not quite sure what relevance this statistic has... Perhaps, it makes Farageist populist support for Trump harder to sustain, or it just demonstrates that I'm a nerd.