US election 2020 thread
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Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
Oh, you just know some moron is going to openly crow about Trump getting Covid 19. It'll play for weeks on right-wing media.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
And he is probably closer, so has a head start.
moochedit
I'm not feeding seagulls
To be fair it would be pretty hard to resist.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
The Dems have long needed some unified messaging as the Republicans have done for years. The next few weeks will show why they need it. You can count on the Dems to pull defeat out of jaws of victory.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
its all false piety though, except for those people who have a rule about not wishing people dead (and they are being tested here). Piers fucking Morgan is out the gates making a scramble for the moral high ground on this and I wish the rona had taken him.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
If he passed it on to Biden- who looks like he might kick the bucket imminently even if he hasn’t got Covid - and he can’t continue then does Harris automatically become their candidate?
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
It’s up to the democrat ‘leadership’. Technically they could choose anyone, practically it would have to be Harris or Sanders. So, Harris.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
I was wondering if it put Sanders back in play as he was ‘runner up’. Who is the Democrat ‘leadership’ in this scenario?
moochedit
I'm not feeding seagulls
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Joe off for a swab....
www.theguardian.com
Scramble under way in Washington to trace spread of Covid among US leadership
Donald Trump’s positive test after hectic week puts White House into crisis mode
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
That’s the fuckers
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
They'd rather lose to Trump than ever put Sanders on the ticket.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I don't see that Sanders could win at this point. He's have needed a massive mobilisation at the grass roots level to get close to a victory. I don't think he works as the parachuted in safe pair of hands.
I'm still not sure though how any of these scenarios play out given that millions of votes have already been cast for Biden v Trump.
I'm still not sure though how any of these scenarios play out given that millions of votes have already been cast for Biden v Trump.
strung out
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Based on guesswork rather than absolute knowledge, but as I understand it, after the election the electors who make up the electoral college are technically able to cast their vote to anybody they like. Obviously by convention, this is usually the presidential candidate who has won the vote in each state, but it can technically be for anybody.
In 2016, Bernie Sanders, John Kasich, Colin Powell, Ron Paul and Faith Spotted Eagle each got one vote each in the electoral college despite not being on the ballot. Presumably in the event that a presidential candidate died before the election, votes from the electoral college could theoretically go to whoever the DNC decided was their new candidate.
krtek a houby
Anger is Hi-NRG
Well, yes but also... 2020... not reliable for predictable outcomes so far.
krtek a houby
Anger is Hi-NRG
Count on it.
Some (slightly sensible?) Republicans might vote against a delay though, so as to minimise Trump's involvement and noise-making
Piss-taking pure speculation is obviously the way to go here, after all
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
There’s not enough time to put a delay through, realistically. He probably wouldn’t become ill enough for it to become necessary to find a replacement for a couple of weeks, which only leaves a couple more weeks to get such totally unheard of legislation passed. So it won’t happen.
probably
probably
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
If either Presidential candidate dies at any point after winning the election, then the VP immediately takes over. They then select a new VP, but that VP's appointment needs to be confirmed by the Senate
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
No.
Article 2 of the Constitution empowers Congress to choose the timing of the election. An 1845 federal law fixed the date it's always been on. It would take a change in federal law to move that date. This would mean legislation enacted by Congress, signed by Trump and subject to challenge in the courts.
The House of Representatives is controlled by Democrats. The Senate by Republicans. It ain't happening.
Even if it somehow did, there is little wriggle room for a new date. Constitution mandates that Congress must be sworn in by Jan 3rd. And the new President's term must begin on Jan 20th. These dates cannot be changed by passage of normal legislation.
So no.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
The DNC. Which means, in practice, Tom Perez, the Chair of the DNC. He's basically a Clintonian, but he's made a big play, as Chair, of bringing the left and right wings of the dems together - it's why he made keith Ellison deputy chair
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Not so according to the Guardian. Pence wasn’t voted for as president-elect, so it’d be back to the courts
What happens if Trump is incapacitated and how would it affect the election?
Donald Trump has tested positive for Covid-19 – but what happens if he can’t carry out his presidential duties?
krtek a houby
Anger is Hi-NRG
Fair enough. Forgive my ignorance but no room for emergency powers/legislation etc?
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
ah yes....it's true that every single possible 'next step' would be subject to legal challengeNot so according to the Guardian. Pence wasn’t voted for as president-elect, so it’d be back to the courts
What happens if Trump is incapacitated and how would it affect the election?
Donald Trump has tested positive for Covid-19 – but what happens if he can’t carry out his presidential duties?
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