US election 2020 thread

[cupid_stunt]

FINALLY

Biden notes 'the violence we're witnessing is happening under Donald Trump. Not me.'

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There's been a lot of talk at this week's Republican National Convention about the dystopian hellhole of "Joe Biden's America." On Thursday evening, Joe Biden said he wasn't sure President Trump is aware he's been in charge of America for the past three and a half years. "

 

[petee]

hmmm.

 

[Streathamite]

Plus of course the thousands of people (and hundreds of millions of dollars) devoted to pumping his message out on TV, radio and the internet all the time. Trump has had the biggest US TV news network and the second biggest collection of local TV networks in the US reciting his talking points and denigrating any opposition to him - especially from reality - for four years now.

All very true. fortunately, quite a lot of people still watch CNN, NBC, ABC and CBS, and they've been admirably evenhanded. Generally, the Fox audience was pretty much already 100% Trump=solids, so they won't have won over any new voters

 

[petee]

they're asking for donations.

"A group of Northern Ireland based Trump supporters have come together to show our support for Donald J Trump in the run-up to the 2020 election. We are planning a ‘trailer campaign’ in good auld Ulster-Scots style we will travel the length and breadth of the Ulster showing our support for President Trump."

ULSTER-SCOTS FOR TRUMP | 🇬🇧 Jolene Bunting U.K. 🇬🇧 (Powered by Donorbox)

With the U.S presidential election just around the corner, a group of Conservative-Christian Activists, from an Ulster-Scots background or Scots-Irish as they're known in America, have come together to launch our 'Ulster-Scots for Trump billboard-...

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[William of Walworth]

hmmm.

Is this reliable/verified?

Hoping not.

 

[petee]

Is this reliable/verified?

Hoping not.

that twitterer has an animus towards russia, but this has apparently happened before: US voter records put for sale on the dark web | CyberNews

kommersant is described by wiki as a major broadsheet.

 

[fucthest8]

Hahahahahaha hahaha ha

Wait. Er...

 

[fucthest8]

He has a point. The dems need a positive, galvanizing theme. "We're not Trump" isn't enough.

This xMillion. It could still easily go wrong, unless they very quickly find something better than "we're not Trump".

Fuck knows what that is though because - and it's time that we just accept this I think - both sides, in the UK too, are as shit as each other, just in different ways

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

Hahahahahaha hahaha ha

Wait. Er...

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President @realDonaldTrump tours what Trump has done to America.

 

[bimble]

yes it doesnt make any sense but does seem to be the idea that he wants to run with, seen a few things like this lately:
but what else is there for him but this, he cant talk about the economy, needs people to stop talking about the virus - and it's also just a repeat of his 'american carnage' message of 2016 so familiar territory.

 

[existentialist]

yes it doesnt make any sense but does seem to be the idea that he wants to run with, seen a few things like this lately:View attachment 228837
but what else is there for him but this, he cant talk about the economy, needs people to stop talking about the virus - and it's also just a repeat of his 'american carnage' message of 2016 so familiar territory.

Well, that's obviously wrong. For a start, he's holding the bible the right way up.

 

[Nylock]

also, he hasn't burst into flames as a result of holding it correctly....

 

[Yossarian]

Why is there a cop outside the church? Another mass shooting?

 

[Humberto]

I think the Democrats should back the protesters as much as they feasibly can. Biden has rightly said Trump is fanning the flames. I would think that the protesters aren't going to lose their resolve, especially with the election looming. If Trump is using this as an issue to grandstand, Biden should demolish him on it. Because if they let him get away with it at this juncture, he will fall back on this argument (law and order). If Biden is prepared, it should be a case of principle. Not standing up to the bully now is worse for America in the long run. Trump is subterranean in his moral scruples, as this episode illustrates. I reckon the Democrats should be able to undermine Trump's credibility and that of the deal he is offering and put him on the back foot.

 

[The39thStep]

No doubt there are other polls but this doesnt look too good for Trump a week after the Republican Convention

 

[Streathamite]

No doubt there are other polls but this doesnt look too good for Trump a week after the Republican Convention

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That Arizona poll is a stunner. That state has been heavily repub lican for a long time.
Also; if Wisconsin, michigan and Pennsylvania go to Biden, it's game over. he then only has to win every state HRC won.

 

[Roadkill]

Depressing, but I fear Lithwick is right...

 

[spring-peeper]

seriously????

Donald Trump suggested on Wednesday that people in North Carolina should vote twice in the November election, casting ballots both in person and by mail, despite this being a crime. When asked about the security of mail-in votes in an interview with WECT-TV, Trump said: “Let them send it in and let them go vote. And if the system is as good as they say it is then obviously they won’t be able to vote” in person.

First Thing: Trump encourages voter fraud and threatens to cut funding to Democrat-led cities

President says people in North Carolina should vote in person and by mail. Plus, coronavirus vaccine may be available in limited doses by November, as concerns grow about politicisation of the drug

www.theguardian.com

 

[agricola]

yes it doesnt make any sense but does seem to be the idea that he wants to run with, seen a few things like this lately:View attachment 228837
but what else is there for him but this, he cant talk about the economy, needs people to stop talking about the virus - and it's also just a repeat of his 'american carnage' message of 2016 so familiar territory.

poor Mike Pence

 

[Yossarian]

"We're taking steps to prevent violence and unrest after a disputed election," says social media boss in totally functioning country.

Facebook will ban new political ads a week before Election Day

The social network will also add a label to posts that aim to delegitimize results or claim premature victory.

www.axios.com

 

[Streathamite]

poor Mike Pence

err - why???
What have I missed here, concerning that creepy homophobic godbotherer?

 

[agricola]

err - why???
What have I missed here, concerning that creepy homophobic godbotherer?

his complete and utter absence from that diptych

 

[Streathamite]

his complete and utter absence from that diptych

ahhh....I seeeee

This raises the intriguing possibility that someone, somewhere in the White House, or in Trump's campaign HQ, actually considers Pence to be more of an electoral liability than the tangerine caudillo
e2a; unless they put Sen. "dibble" harris in there solely to play the race card

 

[agricola]

e2a; unless they put Sen. "dibble" harris in there solely to play the race card

absolutely, in fact that whole frame is full of them

 

[Humberto]

Religion becoming intertwined with politics is scary. Terrible idea. There are actually those who support Trump because he is 'the instrument of God, perhaps even unknowingly'.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Many of his supporters will just not believe it, as ever, but could be getting some traction and further chipping away.

 

[krtek a houby]

Many of his supporters will just not believe it, as ever, but could be getting some traction and further chipping away.

Or, his hardcore supporters will agree with him.

 

[petee]

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

The Boston Globe thinks that Biden is on track to lose the electoral college:

And that’s right. There is no way Trump “wins.” He will lose the national popular vote by somewhere between 5 million and 7 million votes. His reelection campaign hasn’t just given up on trying to win the popular vote; they never thought it was possible in the first place.

Last Thursday put a punctuation mark on the shift. A Change Research poll was posted at CNBC.com. The top-line national number had Biden comfortably ahead. But in the six “battleground states,” Biden’s lead, statistically speaking, had evaporated....

What all the pros know is that the president “under-polls.” Trump is usually 2 percent stronger than he “performs” in any given published poll. “People don’t want to admit they’re voting for Trump,” said one pollster. Bloomberg News recently ran a story saying the same thing.....

If Trump under-polling is a matter of fact, then the races in the six battleground states, the ones that will decide the outcome in November, are dead heats. That’s a long way from where the president stood a month ago.

Biden is on track to lose the Electoral College - The Boston Globe

A month or so ago, the notion that President Trump would win reelection was dismissed as delusional. No longer.

www.bostonglobe.com

I think this is probably accurate, but I hope not. You know you have a really messed up system when someone can lose the popular vote by 7 million votes and still win the office.

May god rest our souls.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

This seems pretty worrying as well.

The Republican and Democratic parties — from the presidential candidates on down — are taking polar opposite approaches to door-to-door canvassing this fall. The competing bets on the value of face-to-face campaigning during a pandemic has no modern precedent, making it a potential wild card in November, especially in close races.

Biden and the Democratic National Committee aren’t sending volunteers or staffers to talk with voters at home, and don’t anticipate doing anything more than dropping off literature unless the crisis abates. The campaign and the Democratic National Committee think they can compensate for the lack of in-person canvassing with phone calls, texts, new forms of digital organizing, and virtual meet-ups with voters.

Trump’s campaign knocks on a million doors a week. Biden’s knocks on zero.

The diverging responses to Covid-19 could be a wild card in November — especially in close races up and down the ballot.

www.politico.com

I know that part of Biden's strategy is just to let Trump trip over himself, but you have to follow it up with some kind of grassroots campaigning. Seriously, wtf?