Urban v's the Commentariat

[Dogsauce]

The 'internship treadmill' is only open to you in the first place if your parents are paying you an allowance. The rest of us are stuck with the low wages forever. They've got a fat salary at the end of it.

Exactly. And by participating in the 'internship treadmill' (even if protesting the fact) they're ensuring it survives as a means of selecting the voices we get to hear louder than any others. I'd imagine most people have no fucking idea what it actually is.

It's like people who moan about the high cost of gig/festival tickets they've bought without realising they're the fucking problem. High prices exist because people pay them without considering who they're pricing out with such an endorsement.

 

[Theisticle]

A complete lack of self-awareness or more self-justifying bullshit?. You decide:

http://www.newstatesman.com/politic...w-write-about-personal-without-becoming-story

A hand-wringing press release for her new book. This should be labelled as such.

 

[Rural]

TE="Theisticle, post: 13254199, member: 60429"]A hand-wringing press release for her new book. This should be labelled as such.[/QUOTE]
Shes not self aware, tho she should b by now. It's not like there's a lack of ppl *helping* her reach self-awareness

 

[Limerick Red]

I think I'd quite like to be given a chance to get on the "internship treadmill".

It's called workfare for regular punters!

 

[Pickman's model]

I think I'd quite like to be given a chance to get on the "internship treadmill".

i don't think you would, unless you've a private source of income

 

[kavenism]

A hand-wringing press release for her new book. This should be labelled as such.

Two hundred and eighty-eight fucking pages according to the Amazon listing. I'd sooner take a bullet in the groin than review this one.

 

[chilango]

i don't think you would, unless you've a private source of income

I think it's the class prequesites involved that I actually fancy...

 

[Idris2002]

Laurie on Magaluf, tries to integrate a class angle into here analysis:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/07/gin-lane-magaluf-press-shame-women?CMP=twt_gu

 

[kavenism]

Laurie on Magaluf, tries to integrate a class angle into here analysis:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/07/gin-lane-magaluf-press-shame-women?CMP=twt_gu

IMO this Magaluf reaction is like taking a tour of hell and expressing surprise at all the horror one finds. Isn't this sort of thing what these places exist for?

 

[Idris2002]

IMO this Magaluf reaction is like taking a tour of hell and expressing surprise at all the horror one finds. Isn't this sort of thing what these places exist for?

Well we square middle aged people might not know what they're like - I wouldn't have known if I hadn't chanced upon a documentary about Ayia Napa or whatever that place is called one night.

 

[equationgirl]

Laurie on Magaluf, tries to integrate a class angle into here analysis:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/07/gin-lane-magaluf-press-shame-women?CMP=twt_gu

I couldn't even finish that. Is it me or has her writing got even worse recently?

 

[Favelado]

IMO this Magaluf reaction is like taking a tour of hell and expressing surprise at all the horror one finds. Isn't this sort of thing what these places exist for?

Although this is a notch up from what I've ever seen at home, this is very similar to Saturday nights out in tourist pubs in Blackpool. You can find free drinks offers for girls prepared to have a bucket of water thrown over their chests in seaside resorts in Britain. Is Laurie from Brighton? Maybe the Soho-on-Sea aspect of the town has stopped it happening there.

 

[Rural]

[QUOTE Equationgirl, post: 13254738, member: 17853"]I couldn't even finish that. Is it me or has her writing got even worse recently?[/QUOTE]

Lol thats so funny, I couldn't finish it either. Think I gave up just b4 half way point

 

[Bakunin]

[QUOTE Equationgirl, post: 13254738, member: 17853"]I couldn't even finish that. Is it me or has her writing got even worse recently?

Lol thats so funny, I couldn't finish it either. Think I gave up just b4 half way point[/QUOTE]

At its worst, trying to finish one of her articles is rather like entering the Le Mans 24 Hours in a pedal car, yes.

 

[equationgirl]

Yeah, just before half way for me

LOL at all of us not managing to finish it.

 

[el-ahrairah]

i'm not going to read that because life is too short, but isn't a class analysis a good thing?

 

[seventh bullet]

Although this is a notch up from what I've ever seen at home, this is very similar to Saturday nights out in tourist pubs in Blackpool. You can find free drinks offers for girls prepared to have a bucket of water thrown over their chests in seaside resorts in Britain. Is Laurie from Brighton? Maybe the Soho-on-Sea aspect of the town has stopped it happening there.

She has mates who do it, 'ironically.'

 

[weepiper]

She has mates who do it, 'ironically.'

Rich girls monetize their hotness. Working class women just suck cocks for a holiday.

 

[seventh bullet]

i'm not going to read that because life is too short, but isn't a class analysis a good thing?

I agree, but then, what the fuck does she know about the working class?

 

[Rural]

i'm not going to read that because life is too short, but isn't a class analysis a good thing?

"Laurie tries 2 integrate a class angle" is pretty far removed from any actual, relevant class analysis.

 

[el-ahrairah]

I agree, but then, what the fuck does she know about the working class?

she went into the KFC in brixton on thatcher party day?

it would be nice if she discovered a proper class analysis. we'll see.

 

[Bakunin]

she went into the KFC in brixton on thatcher party day?

it would be nice if she discovered a proper class analysis. we'll see.

I doubt she'd recognise a decent class analysis if it stripped naked in front of her, covered itself in custard and started dancing the Watusi.

Still, hope might for once triumph over experience.

 

[Rural]

Just noticed the photo that accompanied the guard article shows a reflection of a man wearing a hi-vis jacket, presumably having just bought a copy of the sun, either to confirm his prejudices against *Magaluf Woman* or possibly to reminisce on similar holidays he's taken himself. When he's not in rainy england, being reflected in a tabloid display of course. Think that's the class stereotype. I mean analysis.

 

[Limerick Red]

she went into the KFC in brixton on thatcher party day?

it would be nice if she discovered a proper class analysis. we'll see.

KFC is only for payday, it's Sams chicken for the rest of the month, if my scumbag meat eating colleagues are ought to go by!

 

[ViolentPanda]

Laurie on Magaluf, tries to integrate a class angle into here analysis:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/07/gin-lane-magaluf-press-shame-women?CMP=twt_gu

Her class angle has no angle. There's no analysis as to why working class women are treated in such a way (because they're less able to defend themselves due to lack of social capital, for a start), just an admission that the media are hypocrites.

 

[ViolentPanda]

i'm not going to read that because life is too short, but isn't a class analysis a good thing?

It would be, if she'd attempted a class analysis.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I agree, but then, what the fuck does she know about the working class?

Some of her best friends are probably working class/black/lesbian/add significator as applicable to story.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Rich girls monetize their hotness. Working class women just suck cocks for a holiday.

Ah, the difference between "call girl" and "prostitute", i.e. one of social position, perception and capital, rather than anything meaningful or relevant.

 

[Idris2002]

Her class angle has no angle. There's no analysis as to why working class women are treated in such a way (because they're less able to defend themselves due to lack of social capital, for a start), just an admission that the media are hypocrites.

Hey I said she tried, I didn't say she succeeded.

 

[butchersapron]

You can't have a class analysis from a position that is in such thrall to bastardised privilege theory. You can have a class angle - i,.e that one of the vast array of underprivileged groups is being targeted etc due to their class. But that's it. It's why Jones book on class wasn't class analysis.