Urban v's the Commentariat

[J Ed]

always the weakest series of Wire for me.

I agree, a lot of people dislike Season 2 but I think that it was one of the strongest.

 

[DotCommunist]

That's the general consensus isn't it. I just finished watching all of it.

for me they'd done street level stuff, docks/drug dealing/schools- then the leap to fourth estate that didn't work. And the red ribbon murder stuff didn't ring true

 

[DotCommunist]

I agree, a lot of people dislike Season 2 but I think that it was one of the strongest.

is two the dockers and longeshoremen, union corruption? my fave n all.

 

[J Ed]

Yeah it is, I think a lot of people find it hard to connect to. Sadly I think that's cos it's one of their few exposures to unions in pop culture or even generally

 

[killer b]

season 2 was brilliant, one of my favourites too.

 

[J Ed]

Utter nonsense from Owen Jones here suggesting that Newark voters voted tactically to keep out UKIP, he celebrates Labour and Lib Dem voters going for the Tories to keep out UKIP. This is what passes for logic from the left of the British political caste.

 

[el-ahrairah]

Utter nonsense from Owen Jones here suggesting that Newark voters voted tactically to keep out UKIP, he celebrates Labour and Lib Dem voters going for the Tories to keep out UKIP. This is what passes for logic from the left of the British political caste.

i saw that and was going to put it on here. i've never seen such bollocks.

 

[J Ed]

Exactly, it's patently not true and if it were true then it wouldn't exactly be something to celebrate to say the least.

 

[SpineyNorman]

I used to know this one
http://jezebel.com/tag/the-hatred-of-women

triggeralert.blogspot.com

lovely.

that sounds like a really shit happy shopper version of james blunt

 

[SpineyNorman]

Exactly, it's patently not true and if it were true then it wouldn't exactly be something to celebrate to say the least.

lol I just said exactly the same thing on a facebook whatsit!

 

[butchersapron]

Utter nonsense from Owen Jones here suggesting that Newark voters voted tactically to keep out UKIP, he celebrates Labour and Lib Dem voters going for the Tories to keep out UKIP. This is what passes for logic from the left of the British political caste.

That is proper headbanging out of touch with reality stuff. I wonder how that could have happened.

The left's dan hodges says that UKIP is now over. Again, how could he think that? What sort of ongoing scenario could give him such and idea?

 

[SpineyNorman]

Has Owen been on Urban?

There is a debate raging on the left about how to deal with Ukip. Some believe that it is counterproductive to label Ukip – let alone its voters – as racist, lest it fuels a sense of the muesli-eating, sandal-wearing "liberal elite" closing ranks to shut down debate.

If he's gonna quote me he should fucking attribute it to me

 

[chilango]

He's also missing the point.

Owen, if you're here, read a little more carefully eh?

 

[killer b]

christ, I hope it's a discussion that's going on a bit further afield than just here.

 

[chilango]

christ, I hope it's a discussion that's going on a bit further afield than just here.

Oh it is, I'm sure.

Just not sure where else "a debate raging on the Left" could occur these days.

 

[el-ahrairah]

not now that firebox has closed anyway.

 

[chilango]

Maybe in the network of Peoples Assemblies in communities and workplaces across the country?

 

[killer b]

on twitter? That seems to be the trendy place for debate nowadays.

 

[chilango]

on twitter? That seems to be the trendy place for debate nowadays.

 

[rekil]

Hope lies in the twitterleft.

 

[DotCommunist]

blog comment sections

 

[rekil]

Whatever kiez tavern guardian people drink in.

 

[J Ed]

 

[equationgirl]

It is a genuine observation of the state of the London houseing market, but I'm not as sympathetic to someone going to study at one of the most expensive universities in the world as I am to say someone being forced to move out of their support network because they can't afford to stay there.

 

[rekil]

It is a genuine observation of the state of the London houseing market, but I'm not as sympathetic to someone going to study at one of the most expensive universities in the world as a I am to say someone being forced to move out of their support network because they can't afford to stay there.

Are things so bad that even the smartest kid from a smart school can't get a reasonably well paid day job that would still enable her to knock out those 6 or 7 opinion pieces a month? I think not.

Anthony Seldon claims he doesn't know how many kids at Wellington College get full fees paid. Liar factories these places. Newman should've thrown a bit of chalk at him.

http://www.channel4.com/news/passing-on-the-privilege-of-public-schools-video

 

[chilango]

Anthony Seldon claims he doesn't know how many kids at Wellington College get full fees paid.

I believe him.

He wouldn't have a fucking clue.

 

[weepiper]

Yeah, genuinely afraid. Like she's had her Housing Benefit suspended for 2 months because she had a £4 per week pay rise, like I just have. Fuck you sideways, Laurie.

 

[equationgirl]

Yeah, genuinely afraid. Like she's had her Housing Benefit suspended for 2 months because she had a £4 per week pay rise, like I just have. Fuck you sideways, Laurie.

on your behalf. Fuck them sideways indeed.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Yeah, genuinely afraid. Like she's had her Housing Benefit suspended for 2 months because she had a £4 per week pay rise, like I just have.

FFS

 

[equationgirl]

Oh look, she wants us to do her homework for her again

Laurie Penny @PennyRed · 9h
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