Urban v's the Commentariat

[smokedout]

Owen Jones was on the Daily Politics yesterday sparring with James Delingpole like they were old chums. Then up popped Oxbridge twat Tom Hodgekinson, editor of The Idler, talking about Peter Kropotkin, who he portrayed as some soft hippy libertarian who didn't like governments or big corporations much to the delight of Delingpole who said he sounds like my kinda guy, Owen chortled along happily letting this revisionist bullshit go unchallenged before an embarrassingly optimistic Dave Nellist was on talking about the TUSC whilst Owen Jones explained why everyone should join the Labour Party. If that wasn't enough Nick Griffin was up next in full on conspiraloon mode blaming the BNP implosion on a Labour/BBC plot and saying the EDL were a created as part of a Zionist conspiracy. I'm not sure I have anything to add to any of it, just felt the need to post to get it off my chest and check that that all really did happen in just one hour of television.

 

[smokedout]

Owen was worst by the way, he's right in the heart of it now, Andrew Neil's little pet, Delingpole's chum, no genuine anger, no real politics, no contempt for where and who he's found himself with, no nothing, just him, grinning like a cunt

 

[treelover]

Sounds like a right shambles

 

[treelover]

Owen was worst by the way, he's right in the heart of it now, Andrew Neil's little pet, Delingpole's chum, no genuine anger, no real politics, no contempt for where and who he's found himself with, no nothing, just him, grinning like a cunt

There are quite a few on here who think he is a good sort.

 

[equationgirl]

There are quite a few on here who think he is a good sort.

Not on this thread though. Haven't seen any 'I heart Owen' posts.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Not on this thread though. Haven't seen any 'I heart Owen' posts.

In fact, while some posters have stated that they respect his position, many of us have said that because of his support for the whole "vote Labour with no illusions" schtick, and everything that means in terms of doing nothing to sort out the current lack of democracy, we can't support him or his "movement".

 

[tim]

Owen Jones was on the Daily Politics yesterday sparring with James Delingpole like they were old chums. Then up popped Oxbridge twat Tom Hodgekinson, editor of The Idler, talking about Peter Kropotkin, who he portrayed as some soft hippy libertarian who didn't like governments or big corporations much to the delight of Delingpole who said he sounds like my kinda guy, Owen chortled along happily letting this revisionist bullshit go unchallenged before an embarrassingly optimistic Dave Nellist was on talking about the TUSC ...........

Embarrassingly optimistic or not, at least Dave Nellist is someone articulate from the real left. Perhaps we need to be embarrassingly optimistic sometimes. Anyway here's the Nellist extract.

 

[DotCommunist]

In fact, while some posters have stated that they respect his position, many of us have said that because of his support for the whole "vote Labour with no illusions" schtick, and everything that means in terms of doing nothing to sort out the current lack of democracy, we can't support him or his "movement".

in a nutshell there vp. I'd never consider the man List material but I do find his 'we will save labour' thing a bit bust

 

[tim]

How patronizing!

 

[weepiper]

Pip Borev doing a sterling job of winding up the intellectuals here (he is gay btw)

 

[butchersapron]

Watch of much of this vid as you can - then go right to the end and look at card with the address of the filmers site (at about 5:10)

 

[Theisticle]

I thought Penny was too old to write about student issues now?

http://www.newstatesman.com/education/2014/05/laurie-penny-how-pass-your-damn-exams

 

[trabuquera]

Owen was worst by the way, he's right in the heart of it now, Andrew Neil's little pet, Delingpole's chum, no genuine anger, no real politics, no contempt for where and who he's found himself with, no nothing, just him, grinning like a cunt

mmm, because nothing will win the tellywatching masses over to real socialism like a good hard grumbling from a stony faced angry bloke who'll bash the table and disapprove of everything and everyone around him...

 

[cesare]

Watch of much of this vid as you can - then go right to the end and look at card with the address of the filmers site (at about 5:10)

"Exposing the lunacy of the left, and various other tidbits"

 

[Pickman's model]

mmm, because nothing will will the tellywatching masses over to real socialism like a good hard grumbling from a stony faced angry bloke who'll bash the table and disapprove of everything and everyone around him...

nothing will will what?

 

[Pickman's model]

"Exposing the lunacy of the left, and various other tidbits"

titbits

 

[cesare]

titbits

Tell it to "laughingatliberals"

 

[DaveCinzano]

LGBTIQQAA h8r

 

[Pickman's model]

LGBTIQQAA h8r

 

[DaveCinzano]

Don't despair completely - you've pulled back from the abyss with self-censorship bonus points, plus self-flagellation smilies!

 

[Pickman's model]

Don't despair completely - you've pulled back from the abyss with self-censorship bonus points, plus self-flagellation smilies!

abyss interruptus

 

[DaveCinzano]

That takes abyss kit

 

[cesare]

Can someone with more patience with acronyms tell me what the difference between LGBTIQQAA and QUILTBAG is?

 

[DotCommunist]

one is pronounceable as a word
?

 

[weepiper]

Lesbian Gay Bi Trans Intersex Queer give in give in give in, and Queer Intersex Lesbian Trans Bi And Genderqueer, I think.

 

[DotCommunist]

Questioning, Ally and Another A

 

[cesare]

QUILTBAG's easier to remember

 

[DaveCinzano]

QUILTBAG's easier to remember

But SCUM was easier still

 

[butchersapron]

I thought Penny was too old to write about student issues now?

http://www.newstatesman.com/education/2014/05/laurie-penny-how-pass-your-damn-exams

More lies:

I’m not the smartest person I know

 

[cesare]

But SCUM was easier still

True Das Uberdog doesn't know he's born tbf