Urban v's the Commentariat

[captainmission]

how would redefining themselves as genderqueer help get themselves out of their situation of homelessness

well obviously it wouldn't. But a lot of the men are (for lack of a better word) confused about the sexual identity. Most are involved in hetrosexual relationship, but suck off men to fund their drug habit. A conversation about economic decision you make when destitute might be useful. Adopting the terminology of middle class students less so

 

[andysays]

nah, you're sounding like some anti-sex radfem. She's not some pleb forced to work for page 3 or something. She's classy. She's probably got a-levels and everything. It's like burlesque. Saying she has cute tits is a form of sex positive allyship

It all depends who's saying it, obvs.

If I (as a privileged white middle aged male) or the bloke pictured in the vest were to say it, then of course it would be dodgy, or perhaps even "rapey".

But because Erika is "queer" (and also because she's, like, an expressive creative professional, you dig) it's not just acceptable, it's empowering for the woman with cute tits (sorry, I obviously mean the woman who Erika is depicting/describing as having cute tits - i'm not allowed to express an opinion as to their cuteness or otherwise).

It would be interesting to add a thought bubble to the last picture in that sequence, suggesting what the woman on the stage thought, but Erika has chosen to leave her voiceless and presumably opinionless...

 

[Nigel Irritable]

It's interesting what nigel said above about sex work being viewed as positive and empowering by some sections of the US left. I'm suffering from a massive christian morality hangover and I'm a bloke so I'm not exactly the best placed to comment but it never seemed like an empowering life choice to me...

It's broader than "the left" and permeates into a wider socially "progressive" younger section of society. Most of which would be "leftish" on many issues and in terms of cultural affinities but tends towards Ayn Randian style libertarianism on the subject of the sex industry. It's all about individual "choice", and to talk about constraints on choice is to deny "agency". This logic is correctly seen as self-serving shit when applied to other economic decisions but the sex industry gets a free pass.

 

[frogwoman]

My mate worked in a centre for victims of sex trafficking in Moldova, the charity I worked for also helped people who were deemed at risk of it or had already been trafficked and it helped them improve their lives. I wonder what their opinions would be about any of this. She used to come back with some horrific fucking stories.

 

[Nigel Irritable]

It would be interesting to add a thought bubble to the last picture in that sequence, suggesting what the woman on the stage thought, but Erika has chosen to leave her voiceless and presumably opinionless...

That's very clever. Her thinking "oh for fuck's sake" or even just thinking about buying groceries with the money....

 

[DotCommunist]

It's broader than "the left" and permeates into a wider socially "progressive" younger section of society. Most of which would be "leftish" on many issues and in terms of cultural affinities but tends towards Ayn Randian style libertarianism on the subject of the sex industry. It's all about individual "choice", and to talk about constraints on choice is to deny "agency". This logic is correctly seen as self-serving shit when applied to other economic decisions but the sex industry gets a free pass.

its an odd one, and no doubt the people involved would call it brit prudishness to voice objections. But I remember a mate coming back from Vegas where he took his mrs on honeymoon with a flyer offerin 'the works' so to speak for twenty dollar. Twenty dollars, whats that, 15 quid on a good day? I know quibbling over the prices isn't the point but how devalued is the sale of sex that you can rent someones parts for less than twenty notes?

 

[andysays]

That's very clever. Her thinking "oh for fuck's sake" or even just thinking about buying groceries with the money....

That gets my vote

 

[rioted]

It's interesting what nigel said above about sex work being viewed as positive and empowering by some sections of the US left. I'm suffering from a massive christian morality hangover and I'm a bloke so I'm not exactly the best placed to comment but it never seemed like an empowering life choice to me...

Whereas going down pit, trawling, flipping burgers are? Having to sell your labour, time or body is never empowering. Survival is all.

 

[Nigel Irritable]

Whereas going down pit, trawling, flipping burgers are? Having to sell your labour, time or body is never empowering. Survival is all.

There aren't hordes of "leftists" who start shouting about the denial of agency if someone offers a negative analysis of the fast food industry.

 

[rekil]

That's very clever. Her thinking "oh for fuck's sake" or even just thinking about buying groceries with the money....

Heavy duty nuclear physics equations and workers bomb delivery system logistics and the like. There's an idea for a comic.

 

[equationgirl]

Heavy duty nuclear physics equations and workers bomb delivery system logistics and the like. There's an idea for a comic.

 

[andysays]

Cute tits!

 

[equationgirl]

I take it you want more equations?

 

[andysays]

I take it you want more equations?

I'm afraid those are already beyond me, and any more would be wasted (on me, at least)

 

[equationgirl]

I'm afraid those are already beyond me, and any more would be wasted (on me, at least)

I can assure you, they're beyond me as well

 

[rekil]

You shouldn't just care about Syria because many people were tortured and killed

You should care because people like @RedRazan are brave activists who the American left could learn so much from if they bothered to try

The US left should be ashamed of themselves for being such a disappointment to crabapple, especially the people of colour ones. Like, what's their problem.

 

[Wilf]

Is there anything other than the strip club pannel you find annoying?

For me, it was the words, drawings and ideas. In fact I now hate my computer screen as well.

 

[DotCommunist]

The US left should be ashamed of themselves for being such a disappointment to crabapple, especially the people of colour ones. Like, what's their problem.

when I was eleven my brother convinced me that it was OK to bring a crabapple to a conker fight. He even helped me string the bastard. So I rock up to the big boys table with my crabapple on a string. I was mocked mercilessly. My brother is a dick. He'd pull that sort of wankers trick, then turn up when my mouth had got me in trouble and chin my enemy. So you have to take the rough with the smooth I suppose.

 

[fractionMan]

pmsl

 

[butchersapron]

when I was eleven my brother convinced me that it was OK to bring a crabapple to a conker fight. He even helped me string the bastard. So I rock up to the big boys table with my crabapple on a string. I was mocked mercilessly. My brother is a dick. He'd pull that sort of wankers trick, then turn up when my mouth had got me in trouble and chin my enemy. So you have to take the rough with the smooth I suppose.

Very

Spoiler: Ginger Chips

 

[Idris2002]

when I was eleven my brother convinced me that it was OK to bring a crabapple to a conker fight. He even helped me string the bastard. So I rock up to the big boys table with my crabapple on a string. I was mocked mercilessly. My brother is a dick. He'd pull that sort of wankers trick, then turn up when my mouth had got me in trouble and chin my enemy. So you have to take the rough with the smooth I suppose.

I hope you're going to publish all this some day.

 

[frogwoman]

nah, you're sounding like some anti-sex radfem. She's not some pleb forced to work for page 3 or something. She's classy. She's probably got a-levels and everything. It's like burlesque. Saying she has cute tits is a form of sex positive allyship

i know you're taking the piss but i really hate this language "folks" "allyship" "not real solidarity" etc (apparently not thinking bellydancing is racist "isn't real solidarity" and as someone who's experienced racism myself i should be ashamed lol)

oh and the classic "i welcome your experience" i mean why would you say that, it's like job letters that begin "...after careful consideration" another one i got told, after talking about sexual assault was "you shared so beautifully" what??

what?? what the fuck does that mean?

Speak like fucking humans ffs!

 

[butchersapron]

Black folks - White people.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

I hope you're going to publish all this some day.

dotcommunist a life lived backwards?

 

[Idris2002]

dotcommunist a life lived backwards?

But who would play him in the movie?

 

[Idris2002]

Black folks - White people.

Peau noir, masques blanc.

 

[butchersapron]

The allusion wasn't accidental Idris.

 

[frogwoman]

i welcome your experience

 

[Idris2002]

The allusion wasn't accidental Idris.

Fanon anon.

 

[butchersapron]

Begone!