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Balbi said:
Barring a well known and widely publicised columnist like Bindel, who does have form for being a hateful despicable speaker and writer, is akin to letting fascists win :D

"If you don't like the mean people, don't share a platform with them" is playground idiocy. Yes, let them have a platform and be right but don't make a fuss :facepalm:
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DotCommunist said:
nice elision of silencing Zionist ranter with silencing a woman talking about feminism. Context free freedom of speech
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There are about six people at that meeting, most are pro BDS.
 
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"On behalf of teachers I'd like to dedicate this award to Michael Gove and I mean dedicate in the Anglo Saxon sense, which means insert roughly into the anus of."
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Has anybody called out Mr.Steer from educating yorkshire yet? Is he a little bit homophobia?
 
copliker said:
Has anybody called out Mr.Steer from educating yorkshire yet? Is he a little bit homophobia?
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Did he perchance originally hail from Texas?

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frogwoman said:
ok good, one of the intersectionalist types just posted it :hmm:
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Moen isn't a bad cartoonist at all, albeit in a typically US indie twee slice of life sort of way. That last panel reflects the sex industry positive proclivities of US progressive hipster / arty circles. And the slight air of smugness grates. I'm not at all surprised that it would be a hit with a lot of twittersectionals, mind you. And not entirely for bad reasons - it does actually explain some issues clearly.

(This stuff is quite amusing to me as the cartoon reminds me strongly of a mate's girlfriend, including the last panel digression)
 
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captainmission said:
Is there anything other than the strip club pannel you find annoying?



Sex positive innit. The dancers probably paying her way through university which makes it ok :rolleyes:
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i'm bisexual/"pansexual" I suppose lol, apart from queer being used as a term of abuse when i was younger and one i find quite hard to get my head around, and the smugness, not really, it's the strip club panel i find the most irritating though, but it's also like she's acting like she's the only person to have thought of this stuff before
 
Smugness just come along with that style of comic. It's personal i.e self absorbed and and platform to show how rad and edgey the author is. Ok it says nothing any bi person wouldn't have concluded themselves. But in a milieu where white people can't criticise black people who commit domestic violence or calling someone a fanny is an act of sexual violence it's on the less objectional side of things.
 
captainmission said:
Smugness just come along with that style of comic. It's personal i.e self absorbed and and platform to show how rad and edgey the author is. Ok it says nothing any bi person wouldn't have concluded themselves. But in a milieu where white people can't criticise black people who commit domestic violence or calling someone a fanny is an act of sexual violence it's on the less objectional side of things.
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maybe, i just haven't come across much of this type of thing before recently
 
isn't it a bit rapey?

isn't that sort of stuff and waving money at someone saying how cute someone's boobs are etc basically just objectification? (which women can do to other women and men, and men can do to men etc) it isn't necessarily a "fulfilling relationship" is it?

or do i need to check my privilege again?
 
captainmission said:
Smugness just come along with that style of comic. It's personal i.e self absorbed and and platform to show how rad and edgey the author is. Ok it says nothing any bi person wouldn't have concluded themselves. But in a milieu where white people can't criticise black people who commit domestic violence or calling someone a fanny is an act of sexual violence it's on the less objectional side of things.
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I'll never surrender the right to call someone a fanny. I'll concede practically every gendered insult going, i'll accept the arguments about other words and how they're inherently violent, but I draw the line at fanny. we need to have some words, and fanny is a hilarious word.
 
Delroy Booth said:
I'll never surrender the right to call someone a fanny. I'll concede practically every gendered insult going, i'll accept the arguments about other words and how they're inherently violent, but I draw the line at fanny. we need to have some words, and fanny is a hilarious word.
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You're not alone in that. I had a friend who recently decide to become intersectional. When he got groped in a gay club he consulted the internet and was told by complaining he was upholding his straight privilege and invading a queer space. He accepted that. He volunteers for a homeless charity and thought young homeless men that nosh men off for money could be helped by redefining themselves as gender-queer. But he drew the line when told couldn't use fanny cos it embodied 400 years of patriarchy.
 
frogwoman said:
isn't it a bit rapey?

isn't that sort of stuff and waving money at someone saying how cute someone's boobs are etc basically just objectification? (which women can do to other women and men, and men can do to men etc) it isn't necessarily a "fulfilling relationship" is it?

or do i need to check my privilege again?
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nah, you're sounding like some anti-sex radfem. She's not some pleb forced to work for page 3 or something. She's classy. She's probably got a-levels and everything. It's like burlesque. Saying she has cute tits is a form of sex positive allyship :p
 
captainmission said:
You're not alone in that. I had a friend who recently decide to become intersectional. When he got groped in a gay club he consulted the internet and was told by complaining he was upholding his straight privilege and invading a queer space. He accepted that. He volunteers for a homeless charity and thought young homeless men that nosh men off for money could be helped by redefining themselves as gender-queer. But he drew the line when told couldn't use fanny cos it embodied 400 years of patriarchy.
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how would redefining themselves as genderqueer help get themselves out of their situation of homelessness :confused:
 
frogwoman said:
isn't it a bit rapey?

isn't that sort of stuff and waving money at someone saying how cute someone's boobs are etc basically just objectification? (which women can do to other women and men, and men can do to men etc) it isn't necessarily a "fulfilling relationship" is it?

or do i need to check my privilege again?
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i agree with you entirely. but i am the Fun Police, so you may want to take this with a pinch of salt.
 
It's interesting what nigel said above about sex work being viewed as positive and empowering by some sections of the US left. I'm suffering from a massive christian morality hangover and I'm a bloke so I'm not exactly the best placed to comment but it never seemed like an empowering life choice to me...
 
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