Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24

[frogwoman]

Iran maybe?

 

[existentialist]

It came up again because the Ukrainian government minister brought it up, as quoted further up the thread.

<edited: it's done its work>

 

[existentialist]

The Ukrainian government has brought it up daily for over a week, you brought it up on this thread today, because you like trolling.

I don't think it's a troll. I think it's a rather pathetic true believer, suffering under the delusion that anyone is interested in listening to the maunderings it spews.

 

[RD2003]

I don't think it's a troll. I think it's a rather pathetic true believer, suffering under the delusion that anyone is interested in listening to the maunderings it spews.

What do you imagine I 'truly believe' in? Do you even read my posts?

(And I hope the mods have noted which posters have started off the attempt at a minor derail by writing about other posters again. This is how it works: take a contribution to the thread; start off insulting the poster responsible in another attempt to get him banned.)

 

[dilute micro]

Wonder if it wasn't hacked.

 

[cupid_stunt]

I wish you'd cunt the fuck off this thread. Or get cunted off: either way, I won't be sorry to see you gone. And no, it's not because your devastating insights are too much for me to bear.

It's because you're a cunt. A disruptive cunt. Just to be perfectly clear about it.

Now tell us what you really think about R2D2.

 

[existentialist]

Now tell us what you really think about R2D2.

And you just know it's going to go into pearl-clutching fits of the vapours, at someone having the temerity to call it a cunt. The cunt.

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

Well I've had him on ignore for ages so I no longer know what I think about him.



(I do really)

 

[existentialist]

Well I've had him on ignore for ages so I no longer know what I think about him.



(I do really)

So do I, but there are points where most of a page on a thread is incomprehensible as more patient people than I challenge his puerile bullshit.

 

[editor]

What do you imagine I 'truly believe' in? Do you even read my posts?

(And I hope the mods have noted which posters have started off the attempt at a minor derail by writing about other posters again. This is how it works: take a contribution to the thread; start off insulting the poster responsible in another attempt to get him banned.)

I'll tell you what I have noted, and that's the fact that you're right in the middle of every single thread derail and you've generated more reported posts from multiple posters than anyone else by a considerable factor. I don't believe that you're unaware about how your debating 'style' is managing to rub so many people up the wrong way, but I've had enough so you're now banned off this thread.

I'll also be issuing warnings to other posters who I feel have overstepped the line. I'll also issue warnings to anyone looking to get in the last word or keeping this disruptive crap going on any longer. He's now off this thread. End of discussion.

 

[existentialist]

What would arson get them?

About 12 years.

 

[Flavour]

Thank you editor this thread was becoming unbearable, and I have him on ignore, but just seeing all the others replying to him... urgh. So much wasted typing

 

[teqniq]

Kazakhstan announces the volume of humanitarian aid for Ukraine - Kazakhstan

News and Press Release in English on Kazakhstan and 1 other country about Contributions and Health; published on 10 Mar 2022 by Govt. Kazakhstan

reliefweb.int

fair play

 

[shaman75]

And, TBF, would have probably have been better posting on the Ukraine: Unsubstantiated rumours and speculation thread.

Fair point. Thanks.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Well I've had him on ignore for ages so I no longer know what I think about him.



(I do really)

That usually works best. I have one poster on ignore and its just a relief not to have to acknowledge that poster's existence.

 

[Dogsauce]

Iran maybe?

More likely than Russia, Israel assassinated a couple of military figures about a week ago and Iran swore revenge (which also included the rocket attack on Erbil in Iraq where the US has a base/consulate). There’s still other beef in the world.

 

[frogwoman]

More likely than Russia, Israel assassinated a couple of military figures about a week ago and Iran swore revenge (which also included the rocket attack on Erbil in Iraq where the US has a base/consulate). There’s still other beef in the world.

I'm thinking it's likely to be Iran.

 

[Dogsauce]

I'm thinking it's likely to be Iran.

Israel is a very capable cyber adversary so I’m surprised they’re getting hit this hard.

 

[FabricLiveBaby!]

I see that the idea of a NFZ has been in this thread again in the last few pages. Whatever happens next, whatever NATO decides to do, make no mistake that a NFZ is a declaration of war against Russia. Those calling for a NFZ seem to be under the impression that it just involves calling it a NFZ and then patrolling with planes, maybe also having a few anti-aircraft missile batteries around the place. But that’s not what happens. If the US want to make a NFZ, the first thing they will do is pre-emptively take out all the other side’s anti-air missiles. You know, the ones they have in Russia. So to make a NFZ, the US will need to preemptively attack Russian targets in Russia. That’s all-out war, it’s not just being a peacekeeper.

It's easy for armchair generals to talk about NFZs when they didn't have a fucking missile drop 10 miles from their border a day ago.

 

[tim]

More likely than Russia, Israel assassinated a couple of military figures about a week ago and Iran swore revenge (which also included the rocket attack on Erbil in Iraq where the US has a base/consulate). There’s still other beef in the world.

Israel is also one place that is still chummy with Russia and so they have no real reason for pissing them off, when they could be messing with one of the many more hostile regimes out there.

 

[Dystopiary]

Whoever did the hacking might well not be [nation state]. Just people.

 

[Humberto]

Rules of war now? States are for the punishment of civilians. Those fuckers (Biden-Putin. Johnson Abramovich. or any number of nameless ghouls) have more in common between themselves across any phoney supposedly 'Nationalistic' grounds that they laugh at you for believing. Or even weary concepts like innocent civilians and children's lives counting as a sacred, inviolable worth.

 

[gosub]

Whoever did the hacking might well not be [nation state]. Just people.

When its big its usually a state actor

 

[A380]

Rules of war now? States are for the punishment of civilians. Those fuckers (Biden-Putin. Johnson Abramovich. or any number of nameless ghouls) have more in common between themselves across any phoney supposedly 'Nationalistic' grounds that they laugh at you for believing. Or even weary concepts like innocent civilians and children's lives counting as a sacred, inviolable worth.

Nope sorry you’ve got me there. I mean, I understand each individual word, but this is incoherent even by your normal standards of crayoning.

 

[Humberto]

Ok Random

Are there still 'Rules of war'?

 

[JimW]

Kazakhstan announces the volume of humanitarian aid for Ukraine - Kazakhstan

News and Press Release in English on Kazakhstan and 1 other country about Contributions and Health; published on 10 Mar 2022 by Govt. Kazakhstan

reliefweb.int

fair play

That's also really interesting in terms of the Kazakhs having there own relationship with Russia to manage, not to mention a still pretty substantial Russian population on the steppe borderlands with a bit of a Donbas-like potential, from one account I read.

 

[Ax^]

Ok Random

Are there still 'Rules of war'?

depends if you win and can catch and prosecute

as it's always been don't remember anyone getting shot for the fire bombing of Dresden

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

I try to think of baby sharks but it don't work

Baby shark. FFS. Now look what you've done. It took months for that earworm to wear off last time round.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Wonder if it wasn't hacked.

Possible.

A Romanian friend told me years ago that Romanian is one of the most commonly spoken languages at Microsoft, because there are so many Romanian techies who work there.

Romania has a strong tech sector with lots of people who are highly skilled.

 

[seeformiles]

Putin hits peak paranoia: