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Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24

no, i don't think you're right. i don't think that this is in any way right:

as i say in 3349 yer man having an unfortunate 'accident' and someone else more militarily competent is much more likely that everything getting magicked better as you think will happen. that's not in any way agreeing with you.
Two days ago you were ridiculing the idea that Putin would be ousted.
Now you think he'll be replaced by someone who is better at invading Ukraine.


I never said anything about magic, just withdrawal from Ukraine. And I only took you off ignore because the website is not really useable when yours is almost always the most recent post so i cant see half the threads. :(
 
Two days ago you were ridiculing the idea that Putin would be ousted.
Now you think he'll be replaced by someone who is better at invading Ukraine.


I never said anything about magic, just withdrawal from Ukraine. And I only took you off ignore because the website is not really useable when yours is almost always the most recent post so i cant see half the threads. :(
there's something very urban about not accepting words that you've not used. it's stupid. i don't care that you've not used magic. it's fucking magical thinking to believe that putin will go and russia will leave. it won't happen unless they're forced out. and you're putting more weight on the if in 'if putin' than it will really bear.
 
Messaged my friend today , her mother is Russian , from Moscow. Her father is Ukrainian, from Kyiv. Her Ukrainian family live about 80k from Kyiv and are ok but understandably she is very worried. Her family in Moscow are devastated for Ukraine but also all the "Russian boys who are being killed in the thousands". It's so sad, all of it.

So Russians in Russia are aware that Russian soldiers are dying in droves? How are they getting the information?
 
there's something very urban about not accepting words that you've not used. it's stupid. i don't care that you've not used magic. it's fucking magical thinking to believe that putin will go and russia will leave. it won't happen unless they're forced out.
Don't be cross. You just said you think Putin will go and someone more good at wars will take over and Russia will carry on its assault on Ukraine under this new leader. Let's see.
 
yeh but then you've not been paying attention to some of what's been said eg the leaving of the top troops outside the first echelons committed. the peculiar use of armour without obvious infantry and infantry without armour. the way air superiority not assured before committing ground forces. the way things haven't been joined up, combined arms not combined. shitty ilyushin airplanes shot out the sky. it wouldn't take that much to get things moving in a more effective way i think. and if putin can't do it, if shoygu and gerasimov can't assure it, i'm sure other generals can be found who will.

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What if it is deliberate?
 
If Putin thinks he can hide away in a bunker and all will be OK I think he's mistaken. After the apocalypse, when he emerges from his subterranean hole, I'm sure the anarchist mutant zombies will be waiting for him.
(The Marxist textbooks nearly always ignore this sort of thing. A grave error.)
 
No, Russian ships not based in Black Sea ports will no longer be able to entre the BS, and likewise any Russian ships in the BS will not be able to get out.

It's not a silver bullet, nor is any other individual sanction introduced, it just tightens the screws further, and sends an important message to Putin from what had been a country fairly friendly towards him.
Or they'll simply redesignate their home bases to suit...
 
I’m aware that chancellor hitler was very successful in trashing the Prussian legacy of the officer corps and had them - that survived - on a leash right until the end. How are the Russian military placed here - Seeing the glum faced career pair sitting at the big table doesn’t suggest anything but compliance - are the army top dogs ever likely to make a move to remove VP?

Obviously a snowy December 1989 kinda ending would bring me great pleasure but how likely?
 
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