UK music industry, bands, work permits and Brexit

[The39thStep]

I suppose people could go and see local bands

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I suppose people could go and see local bands

Depending on where you live, that might be good, might be really limited and limiting.

Hard to argue that bands travelling and bringing their music to wider audiences doesn't enrich the world. Weird resistance to that idea here - there are way worse ways to spend your carbon rations.

 

[Pickman's model]

To be fair, music has far more intrinsic value than football or certainly all the drug driven athletics we have foisted upon us.
Waving bye bye to the Olympics and finding other ways of improving bilateral relations between countries would be good. Dr exchange and support programs worked well for Cuba. Better than fools bleating about how high they can jump.

i wager they could be made to jump 500 feet

 

[8ball]

Rather a lot of bleating was done in Cuba over this particular jumping man.

Still unbroken. That’s quite amazing.

(Looked it up)

 

[Saul Goodman]

Still not entirely sure why you're singling out the things that give pleasure and a sense of community to billions of people - rich and poor - while making no mention of all the other far more wasteful and polluting uses of air transport. Music and sport give opportunities to people of all backgrounds, and a world without music or any possibility to regularly see bands play live would be very fucking bleak indeed - whereas I'm pretty sure it's possible to enjoy life without needing to have Argentinian blackberries and Zambian sugarsnap peas air freighted in.

I'm not singling them out. I'm replying in a thread about bands touring, to a question about footballers touring, so I fail to see how mentioning bands and footballers in my reply is me singling them out.
For balance, and for the record, I'd absolutely ban avocados and other such lifestyle foods from being imported, probably before I'd ban musicians and footballers from touring.

 

[Pickman's model]

I suppose people could go and see local bands

local bands for local people

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I'm not singling them out. I'm replying in a thread about bands touring, to a question about footballers touring, so I fail to see how mentioning bands and footballers in my reply is me singling them out.
For balance, and for the record, I'd absolutely ban avocados and other such lifestyle foods from being imported, probably before I'd ban musicians and footballers from touring.

Oranges?

To be green, we should all drink juice from concentrate.

 

[editor]

I suppose people could go and see local bands

And so they should but not everyone lives in towns or villages with thriving music scenes. Or any music scene at all.

 

[editor]

As John Miles said in his moving 1976 smash, Music:

To live without my music
Would be impossible to do.
In this world of troubles,
My music pulls me through.

 

[TopCat]

I trained and competed quite successfully in the high jump as a youngster. A huge amount of effort expended, resources used, for what? A pointless waste of all of those things.
I look back at my life and see actual real achievements that meant something. Often with sports people they do their most productive, community minded work when they retire.

 

[TopCat]

Rather a lot of bleating was done in Cuba over this particular jumping man.

Never heard the bleating. Could not care a jot. Less important than crown bowling which brings the oldies together and encourages gentle excercise.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I trained and competed quite successfully in the high jump as a youngster. A huge amount of effort expended, resources used, for what? A pointless waste of all of those things.
I look back at my life and see actual real achievements that meant something. Often with sports people they do their most productive, community minded work when they retire.

Certainly Jonathan Edwards, upon retirement saw through all the jeebus bollocks, for a start.

 

[TopCat]

Still unbroken. That’s quite amazing.

(Looked it up)

It's as ridiculous as many other world records. Yoga position attached to a big weight whilst freediving? That was in the news this week.

 

[Pickman's model]

Never heard the bleating. Could not care a jot. Less important than crown bowling which brings the oldies together and encourages gentle excercise.

more of a boules man myself. or darts.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Certainly Jonathan Edwards, upon retirement saw through all the jeebus bollocks, for a start.

... and became a commentator. Does all the travelling, doesn't even compete.

 

[TopCat]

Certainly Jonathan Edwards, upon retirement saw through all the jeebus bollocks, for a start.

I think many, when left with no career and lasting injury just realise what a waste the whole sport thing is.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

... and became a commentator. Does all the travelling, doesn't even compete.

Good for him. I hope he flies up the front of the plane too.

 

[Pickman's model]

Good for him. I hope he flies up the front of the plane too.

first into the ground in the event of crashing

 

[Sasaferrato]

Geldof is not a UK citizen, he is a citizen of Eire, and therefore will not be affected, as freedom of movement between the UK and Eire will not be affected. WTF is the dickhead going on about?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I think many, when left with no career and lasting injury just realise what a waste the whole sport thing is.

The commonest refrain from most ex-elite sports people to those stil playing is 'make sure you enjoy it while it lasts'.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Geldof is not a UK citizen, he is a citizen of Eire, and therefore will not be affected, as freedom of movement between the UK and Eire will not be affected. WTF is the dickhead going on about?

Showing concern for the wellbeing of others?

Does Not Compute

 

[Saul Goodman]

As John Miles said in his moving 1976 smash, Music:

You could quite easily substitute 'music' with pretty much any noun. Steak would be a good example. Both are enjoyed by many. Both come with quite a significant carbon footprint. One of them can still be enjoyed whilst massively reducing its carbon footprint.

 

[Pickman's model]

You could quite easily substitute 'music' with pretty much any noun. Steak would be a good example. Both are enjoyed by many. Both come with quite a significant carbon footprint. One of them can still be enjoyed whilst massively reducing its carbon footprint.

i've lived very happily for many years without john miles' music, so his claim about the impossibility of living without his music doesn't stand up

 

[editor]

You could quite easily substitute 'music' with pretty much any noun. Steak would be a good example. Both are enjoyed by many. Both come with quite a significant carbon footprint. One of them can still be enjoyed whilst massively reducing its carbon footprint.

This is one of the most ridiculous attempts to quite literally bring cross thread beef into a discussion. Musicians are not the same as a plateful of meat. This is not a debate about meat, neither as we going to continue your tedious and rambling pro-meat arguments in this thread. There is already an active thread for that. Keep it there.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Showing concern for the wellbeing of others?

Does Not Compute

I really don't see there ever being a shortage of music. Even if no new music was ever created, no one could listen to all the existing music in one lifetime.

If there are fewer bands coming in from abroad, it increases the chances of native talent being heard.

Sorry, but free movement of bands is way way down my list of concerns re brexit.

 

[Pickman's model]

I really don't see there ever being a shortage of music. Even if no new music was ever created, no one could listen to all the existing music in one lifetime.

If there are fewer bands coming in from abroad, it increases the chances of native talent being heard.

Sorry, but free movement of bands is way way down my list of concerns re brexit.

to be fair, the country would be no worse off and quite possibly a better place to live if many uk bands moved over the channel.

 

[editor]

If there are fewer bands coming in from abroad, it increases the chances of native talent being heard.

What?

 

[Sasaferrato]

The commonest refrain from most ex-elite sports people to those stil playing is 'make sure you enjoy it while it lasts'.

Yep, playing sports at a reasonable level has left me with two knackered knees, a knackered back and wrists that ache in cold weather. The back and wrists were a result of trying to mix cartwheels with skiing. (You can, but it isn't advisable )

 

[editor]

to be fair, the country would be no worse off and quite possibly a better place to live if many uk bands moved over the channel.

Why's that then? How would a band you never have to listen to moving into another country make this country a better place?

 

[Sasaferrato]

to be fair, the country would be no worse off and quite possibly a better place to live if many uk bands moved over the channel.

I can't disagree with that. Mind you I'm of the generation that likes things to have a tune.