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[SpineyNorman]

To be fair, I think posting far right poison is only OK if you do it politely and without saying any naughty words.

 

[Mation]

I think I'll carry on as I have been thanks. Hes a far right troll who thinks hes going under the radar. Maybe he fools you but I'm having none of it.

Posting far right poison is perfectly ok. Calling the posters of far right poison cunts is beyond the pale.

Have we really sunk this low?

How have I been fooled? Who thinks posting far right shit is ok?

 

[two sheds]

You've not been following his posts, Mation?

 

[SpineyNorman]

How have I been fooled? Who thinks posting far right shit is ok?

Well I only see you doing this perfect routine on me, not seen it on any of his obvious far right links and posts.

I'm not going to stop until he's gone (or if you get your way till I'm banned) so I'd stop wasting my energy if I was you.

 

[Mation]

You've not been following his posts, Mation?

Because if I had been then I'd think personal attacks were ok?

 

[strung out]

I've reported posts 19 and 22, just to draw mods' attention to whether it's ok to make personal attacks.

Sorry to derail your thread, Rutita1

Fucking hell, since when did people start reporting posts calling far right posters cunts?

 

[Mation]

Well I only see you doing this perfect routine on me, not seen it on any of his obvious far right links and posts.

I'm not going to stop until he's gone (or if you get your way till I'm banned) so I'd stop wasting my energy if I was you.

I haven't responded to posts that aren't worth my time.

Not sure why you think I want to see you banned

 

[Mation]

Fucking hell, since when did people start reporting posts calling far right posters cunts?

Either we don't want those views on here, in which case ban the poster, or we want to argue the points, in which case do so. Personal attacks are ugly, whoever they're on (when the person is here to be attacked directly, as opposed to someone who's not sitting at home reading this stuff about themselves).

 

[two sheds]

Because if I had been then I'd think personal attacks were ok?

No, I was responding to "How have I been fooled? Who thinks posting far right shit is ok?"

 

[Mation]

No, I was responding to "How have I been fooled? Who thinks posting far right shit is ok?"

I got that. My questions still stand.

 

[brogdale]

I've reported posts 19 and 22, just to draw mods' attention to whether it's ok to make personal attacks.

Sorry to derail your thread, Rutita1

Well, this is very disappointing.

 

[SpineyNorman]

I haven't responded to posts that aren't worth my time.

Not sure why you think I want to see you banned

What outcome were you hoping for when you reported my post?

Anyway, I'm done with this bizarre exchange. Have a nice evening.

 

[SpineyNorman]

I haven't responded to posts that aren't worth my time.

Not sure why you think I want to see you banned

So calling out far right posts isnt worth your time but me calling him a cunt is? Interesting priorities.

I really am done now.

 

[maomao]

Attacks made on political threads aren't personal they're political. No-one had a go at him when he had a thread about headaches in K&S.

 

[two sheds]

I got that. My questions still stand.

Indeed, I don't myself like bullying, although as a response to far-right posters I think it might be the only way to get rid of them. He's consistently broken the 'don't be a dick' posting rule, though, and he's himself in favour of bullying (first line of article he posts saying it's a 'good article'):

The ongoing stupidity of Home Secretary Priti Patel

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.spectator.co.uk/2020/02/in-defence-of-priti-patel/amp/ Rodders thinks there isn’t enough bullying in the civil service The article seems to suggest there needs to be more of the right kind of bullying, whatever that means.

www.urban75.net

 

[brogdale]

Attacks made on political threads aren't personal they're political. No-one had a go at him when he had a thread about headaches in K&S.

The bridge dweller must be chuffed to have someone reporting on his behalf.
A low point in P&P.

 

[Mation]

What outcome were you hoping for when you reported my post?

Anyway, I'm done with this bizarre exchange. Have a nice evening.

As I said, it was to draw mods' attention to whether personal attacks are ok.

So calling out far right posts isnt worth your time but me calling him a cunt is? Interesting priorities.

I really am done now.

I'd rather not have to deal with far right views here at all. There's enough of that shit everywhere else. But if it's going to be allowed, then play the ball, not the man.

Anyway. I've said my bit, whether you get it or not.

 

[SpineyNorman]

Weird and disappointing as this little episode is, I suggest we leave this now so the thread can get back on track.

Let the mods (who do a much better job than I could ftr, my posts here aren't a criticism of them) deal with the reported posts as they see fit.

 

[strung out]

It would certainly be a new and radical departure from established protocol if calling other posters cunts was deemed worth of mod action.

 

[two sheds]

Although Mation has a point about playing the ball - we do perhaps need to pick up more on the nasty shit he posts and continue to chase it down until he actually responds.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

The study I referred to earlier was the Free Speech Project, conducted by Georgetown University, USA.

Data shows a surprising campus free speech problem: left-wingers being fired for their opinions

Does “political correctness” really crush conservative speech on campus? The data suggests no.

www.vox.com

 

[redsquirrel]

Yeah no offence Mation but you've got this one wrong, Marty1 is a hard right wanker. Calling him a cunt is not "bullying" it is a political attack, just like calling someone who crosses a picket line a scab is.

 

[YouSir]

Although Mation has a point about playing the ball - we do perhaps need to pick up more on the nasty shit he posts and continue to chase it down until he actually responds.

He doesn't respond.

 

[two sheds]

That's a very good point as it happens. Perhaps we need to be more persistent

 

[Marty1]

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He doesn't respond.

https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/what-do-you-have-on-ignore.369416/post-16415273

 

[Sasaferrato]

There is no place in education for 'educator' who are politically biased.

To be fair, I think posting far right poison is only OK if you do it politely and without saying any naughty words.

Can you tell me why the far right is worse than the far left? Stalin after all (and it doesn't get much further left than that) killed at least as many people as the Nazis. AFAIK there hasn't been a right wing regime that forced people into cannibalising their children, something that happened during the Stalin regime.

 

[two sheds]

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https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/what-do-you-have-on-ignore.369416/post-16415273

How come you noticed this conversation then?

 

[flypanam]

. AFAIK there hasn't been a right wing regime that forced people into cannibalising their children, something that happened during the Stalin regime.

That's because the right wing tend to round up and kill the whole family.

 

[chilango]

There is no place in education for 'educator' who are politically biased.

Can you tell me why the far right is worse than the far left? Stalin after all (and it doesn't get much further left than that) killed at least as many people as the Nazis. AFAIK there hasn't been a right wing regime that forced people into cannibalising their children, something that happened during the Stalin regime.

Oh Sass

I'll get back to you on this later. Especially your first point which is the crux of the discussion imo.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Although Mation has a point about playing the ball - we do perhaps need to pick up more on the nasty shit he posts and continue to chase it down until he actually responds.

Respond to the content and argue your point.

I am absolutely opposed to stopping people from speaking, whatever their view. (within the law.). What are people afraid of?