Tottenham Hotspur 2020-21
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Zapp Brannigan
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Yes. I'm not a fan of "winning" a penalty when it's something like a forward being felled because he deliberately left a leg trailing looking for contact. That to me isn't a foul, because without the forward's intent then nothing happens.
On the other hand, if a forward positions himself where a high ball is going to land and then stands his ground only to have a clumsy oaf climb all over him, it's a foul.
There were two fairly massive refereeing errors in that game - BHA should have had a penalty of their own for Doherty pulling back the forward (possibly not given for the exaggerated reaction, but still), and their goal shouldn't have stood in a month of sundays.
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would be top of the table if it wasnt for that bullshit handball nonsense
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blatant pen...worst you can say is Kane manipulated it, but a pen is a pen....he was jumped on and pushed in the box
Pickman's model
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being top of the table in november isn't all it's cracked up to be. being top of the table in five, six months' time - much more significant
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hah yeah i know
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Same could be said for Liverpool
He backed into the other player 100%
Been listening to the pundits and podcasts regarding the 'penalty' for Kane.
100% of people saying it wasn't just not a penalty but it was deliberate dangerous play by Kane. He watched the player and not the ball. He deliberately backed into the player while they were in the air. In Rugby and American Football it is a straight red and an automatic ban every time.
I saw Salah go down 'easily' for his penalty but it was a foul and it was a penalty. If referee's were any good they would give decisions for forwards in these circumstances but they don't. Same with the Maguire (headlock) tackle against Chelsea. The referee and VAR missed that (how?) so should the attacker stay up?
100% of people saying it wasn't just not a penalty but it was deliberate dangerous play by Kane. He watched the player and not the ball. He deliberately backed into the player while they were in the air. In Rugby and American Football it is a straight red and an automatic ban every time.
I saw Salah go down 'easily' for his penalty but it was a foul and it was a penalty. If referee's were any good they would give decisions for forwards in these circumstances but they don't. Same with the Maguire (headlock) tackle against Chelsea. The referee and VAR missed that (how?) so should the attacker stay up?
Johnny Doe
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Declaration of interest that I'm a Gooner, but that was my honest reading. Ball's in the air and one player is looking at and goes for it. The other makes no attempt to play the ball, doesn't look it and purposefully move under his opponent.
Johnny Doe
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You can't honestly believe that? He moved to make Lallana landed on him - how can you describe that as being pushed?
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Still blatant?
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so he manipulated it
he created the conditions in which he would receive a penalty
it's very blatant and reflects very badly on kane, who should be charged with bringing the game into disrepute
Zapp Brannigan
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Any talk of a red card for Kane is pure fantasy.
Yes, Kane looks for Lallana but all he does is places himself between Lallana and where the ball is going to land, effectively saying "either I get the ball or you foul me" which is in every way a legitimate part of the game. He doesn't back into Lallana once he's airborne, the coming together was all Lallana's doing - with Kane where he was, he had a choice of pull out of the challenge or give away a foul.
What Kane shouldn't have done was "make a back for" Lallana, but it's understandable given he knew he was about to take a whack and it doesn't change that the foul was by the Brighton player. He certainly didn't "tackle him in the air" for those making a spurious rugby comparison.
For the record, the Salah incident was also a penalty in my book. It's one of those where I wish the penalty could be given and also a yellow for simulation because Salah didn't half make a meal of it, but a foul none the less. Additional caveat - refs need to start giving pens for fouls like this if and when a player doesn't go to ground like he's been shot, because it's still a foul and maybe then players like Salah (or Kane, Lamela, Vardy, Aubameyang, Aguero, Martial etc etc) won't feel the need to go for a triple twist with pike and added yelling.
Yes, Kane looks for Lallana but all he does is places himself between Lallana and where the ball is going to land, effectively saying "either I get the ball or you foul me" which is in every way a legitimate part of the game. He doesn't back into Lallana once he's airborne, the coming together was all Lallana's doing - with Kane where he was, he had a choice of pull out of the challenge or give away a foul.
What Kane shouldn't have done was "make a back for" Lallana, but it's understandable given he knew he was about to take a whack and it doesn't change that the foul was by the Brighton player. He certainly didn't "tackle him in the air" for those making a spurious rugby comparison.
For the record, the Salah incident was also a penalty in my book. It's one of those where I wish the penalty could be given and also a yellow for simulation because Salah didn't half make a meal of it, but a foul none the less. Additional caveat - refs need to start giving pens for fouls like this if and when a player doesn't go to ground like he's been shot, because it's still a foul and maybe then players like Salah (or Kane, Lamela, Vardy, Aubameyang, Aguero, Martial etc etc) won't feel the need to go for a triple twist with pike and added yelling.
Zapp Brannigan
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300 games for Spurs, 200 goals, Harry Kane. Won't be long until he's 2nd in the all-time goalscoring charts behind just Jimmy Greaves, and he's only 27. What a player...
In addition, the "double double" has long been held as a decent measure of creative forward players - double figures for goals, double figures for assists. Kane has racked up these numbers in 13 games this season.
In addition, the "double double" has long been held as a decent measure of creative forward players - double figures for goals, double figures for assists. Kane has racked up these numbers in 13 games this season.
Zapp Brannigan
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Harry Kane again, 150 Prem goals up in 218 games - 3rd quickest to reach that milestone after Aguero (217, and he arrived in Manchester as a fully fledged star player already) and Shearer (212).
Need wolves and man city to do us a favour to stay there, but top of the league.
Need wolves and man city to do us a favour to stay there, but top of the league.
I looked up the "all-time" (aka since 1992) top flight scorers earlier, and he now has the highest goals-per-game ratio of the top ten, marginally ahead of Henry and Aguero.
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Yes
Zapp Brannigan
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That ship has sailed. Very different types of player, but we already have Ndombele, Lo Celso and Dele Alli vying for the position that Eriksen would play.
Zapp Brannigan
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Well this is all going rather nicely. 2-0 vs Man City, kept them at arm's length even though they had a lot of possession. 9 games in, TOP OF THE LEAGUE.
Kane didn't score, but he absolutely brilliant. There was a time when he was either scoring or invisible, not any more. Best there is.
Kane didn't score, but he absolutely brilliant. There was a time when he was either scoring or invisible, not any more. Best there is.
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Looking forward to the highlights
Most of my football minded friends are Arsenal, so this is particularly enjoyable
Most of my football minded friends are Arsenal, so this is particularly enjoyable
The39thStep
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Spurs at home : 4 shots, 2 on target and 2 goals. Late period Mourinho
Late vintage Mourinho indeed
Incredible masterclass yesterday. I think it was a dead cert that Mourinho would adopt this tactic (again) against City but to make it work requires a well drilled, disciplined, motivated and fit team. Hats of to him, his staff & the players. Worked so well that we were the better side in the 2nd half and City had no answers...outstanding defending leading to City overplaying or over hitting passes out for GK’s.
This is why there will always be question marks around Pep too. For someone billed as a progressive, he is stubbornly rigid in his thinking and style .
Anyway, I’ll let the oil sheikhs worry about that.
Enjoying our run atm but as a supporter for almost 40yrs I won’t be getting too carried away
Incredible masterclass yesterday. I think it was a dead cert that Mourinho would adopt this tactic (again) against City but to make it work requires a well drilled, disciplined, motivated and fit team. Hats of to him, his staff & the players. Worked so well that we were the better side in the 2nd half and City had no answers...outstanding defending leading to City overplaying or over hitting passes out for GK’s.
This is why there will always be question marks around Pep too. For someone billed as a progressive, he is stubbornly rigid in his thinking and style .
Anyway, I’ll let the oil sheikhs worry about that.
Enjoying our run atm but as a supporter for almost 40yrs I won’t be getting too carried away
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Judo football
BTW its a pleasure to see the squad without Dele Alli in it
BTW its a pleasure to see the squad without Dele Alli in it
