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second half was a draw IIRC'we will give everything to put this right?'they had fucking 90 minutes (plus stoppage time) to influence the result and failed dismally
Tottenham Hotspur 2022-23
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sadly goals carry over from the first to the second halfsecond half was a draw IIRC
I think this will be the first time Chelsea have had an ex-Spurs manager, that I can remember anyway. By contrast Spurs have had Hoddle, Mourinho, AVB and Conte, and I've seen Potter linked to the WHL vacancy.
The39thStep
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Yes you are right . AVB was disappointing after his success at Porto at both clubs , I thought both Mourinho and Conte would do well at Spurs . Potter is a good candidate at a club where the stakes aren’t high , Spurs isn’t the place for him .
Jimmy Don't
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Think he read this
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grim at half time, though chelsea at the half makes it seem not that bad
The39thStep
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Even grimmer that I foolishly bet on Spurs beginning of the season to make the top four in a five timer of teams to be placed in their leagues. The others all came in.
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Rookie error
The39thStep
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optimism of the will
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Translate into Latin and write it over a chicken standing on a football
The39thStep
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No new manager comments?
imposs1904
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So spurs have got a really good manager. But they'll still not win the league.
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gone in six months most likely
is he really a good manager? I mean Celtic pretty much always win the Scottish league dont they?
The39thStep
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I suppose that being good, will boil down to what Spurs supporters want. This year Celtic won the treble and played well in their group stage in the CL but lacked composure and it must be said squad quality. He plays attacking football, wants effort and builds a bond with fans.
Some supporters will write him off, tbh some players might write him off and sections of the media will want to write him off however he's on a two year contract neither him or the club have got much to lose. Be interesting if he brings Jota with him.
Zapp Brannigan
Built like a steakhouse, handles like a bistro
He joined a club who had finished 20+ points down on Rangers, and promptly won the league back. Scotland may be a 2 horse race but he won it and won it in some style.
Reasons to be cheerful - Postecoglu is a manager who has had an instant impact wherever he's been, and has subsequently gone on to build successful squads in his own style. That style being quick passing, front foot, and looking to win the ball high up the pitch - basically the antithesis of Conte and Mourinho's sit back and counter styles.
The silver lining to the cloudy end to the season is that we have a 40-50 game season coming up instead of the 50-60. Every season in recent memory has ended up with a predictable first 11 and a very small handful of others who see regular game-time; cue a knackered and/or injured 11 come March/April, and the faintly ridiculous 8 or 9 changes for 'lesser' cup games (throwing away potential trophies in the process) before reverting straight back to the previous 11.
A squad of 18-20, well managed, should mean that no player ever plays 5+ consecutive full 90 min matches, all while never being more than 2ish changes away from the perceived first 11.
I'm an optimist, there's plenty of quality in the squad already. A few players can move on for a few quid (Lloris, Sanchez, Perisic, Ndombele, Winks, Rodon, Tanganga to name but a few), and only a handful of quality replacements needed to start with. A left sided centre back (Laporte, Colwill, Pau Torres, Max Kilman), a goalkeeper (Dean Henderson, David Raya), an attacking midfielder (James Maddison, Morgan Gibbs-White) and we're well away.
Will we win the league? No. Will we get in the top 4? Probably not. Will it be a whole lot more entertaining than this year? Almost certainly.
Oh yeah, almost forgot - don't sell Kane. If he gets to within shouting distance of Shearer's goal record, and if we as a club look like we have a sense of direction again, there's still a chance he'll be a Spurs lifer. If it all goes tits up again, so what if he goes on a free.
CosmikRoger
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It's all a bit underwhelming. Smells of Levy getting rubbish for cheap again.I read à couple of days ago that Tottenham are the 4th most profit making sporting entreprise in the world, and the top footballing one. I read today that rhe Postman has already been told that he has to live within his means, and that McGuire is on the cards. What the fuck for, are him and Dier gonna give donkey rides to kids for à tenner à go at halftime or something ?
As for this dude winning the title for Celtic and being loved by their fans for playong nice football, it wasnt so long ago they all had à collective hard-on for Neil fucking Lennon so I wont be listening too much to them.
As for this dude winning the title for Celtic and being loved by their fans for playong nice football, it wasnt so long ago they all had à collective hard-on for Neil fucking Lennon so I wont be listening too much to them.
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this is literally all i care about
i expect us to be quite leaky, but so long as we are out on the front foot with some good attacking players i'm happy
Ted Striker
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I'm pleased. At least I've got that textbook feeling of exciting trepidation "Have we found the next Wenger or the next Christian Gross"
... Praying he doesn't start his first press conference holding up an Oyster pass saying he's one of us 
Zapp Brannigan
Built like a steakhouse, handles like a bistro
Because I'm a football nerd and at the ripe old age of 43 still a Spurs obsessive, I've given some thought as to how I'd do it. First conclusion is that I should be the assistant manager.
Second is to stick with 3 at the back in the short term; we have 3 left backs (Udogie, Sessegnon and Davies) and 3 right backs (Porro, Spence and Emerson), 4 of whom are specialist wing backs better going forward than defending so let them do what they do best.
Next, swap Romero and Dier* - Romero is by a mile our best defender and a quality centre back; but he's not a full back, and on many an occasion the outer centre backs have to cover the full back area. I'd wager that a fair few of his rash bookings have come from tackling on the run while heading away from where he wants to be. Put these 2 with a better LCB in front of a younger, better GK and we're already a much sturdier side.
Midfield - Skipp OR Hojbjerg, and Bentancur OR Bissouma. One defensive, one progressive. Wing backs pushed forward; instead of dropping back into a back 5 the moment we lose the ball, go the other way and join in a high press - have faith that their defensive area will get covered. Pressing is a numbers game.
Up front - lose the front 3, instead go 1-2 with someone like Maddison (or Kulusevski) central. It's an extra body in midfield when we need to be more compact, and it lets Son (or Richarlison) play closer to Kane (or Richarlison) and closer to goal. If the wing backs are high up, we don't need the forwards to provide width. To my mind the best bit would be that the number 10 can drift away from that position, taking a holding midfielder with him leaving a big pocket of space exactly where Kane likes to play.
* Re the Eric Dier conundrum. If there's money to be found without selling Kane, I'd also be knocking on Crystal Palace's door for Marc Guehi to play in that position. But, for all Dier's faults lack of versatility isn't one of them - he understands the CB position and he understands defending out wide, even if it has been a long time since his early days as a marauding full back.
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Always enjoy reading your thoughts, this level of squad detail is beyond me, but one comment I do have in the squad is I don't think Hojberg making runs and crosses from the left is good enough. He gives off the energy of being useful but my impression is the result is always disappointing.
Zapp Brannigan
Built like a steakhouse, handles like a bistro
Ta for your kind words. An important caveat is that the sum total of my managerial experience is guiding the 23rd Sutton Coldfield cubs to league glory in 1998, although I'd argue that it was me who invented the Guardiola/John Stones experiment of hybrid centre back/holding midfielder.
Hojbjerg is a good, honest defensive midfielder. He's miles away from the Busquets/Carrick/Rodri mould of defensive ability through reading of the game, but very few have that ability; he's more of the all-action, run around a lot and put in loads of tackles. Not a world beater, but he shows leadership and heart, both of which are sometimes missing in our current setup. I think his weaknesses are highlighted when paired with another defensive player (Skipp) and both get stuck trying to play forward outside their respective skill sets, but there's always a place for a specialist ball-winner in midfield.
Cast your mind back to the rare happy day when we beat Man City this season - it was Hojbjerg, joining in a 4 or 5 man press, who put a foot in on (I think) Rodri, winning the ball very high up the pitch to roll in Kane for the winner. That's the kind of football I want to see more of, not the same tackle 40 yards further back.
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definitely gets an A for effort and commitment, but my watching of games seemed to see him become a key playmaker on the left and frankly it needs someone more clinical running forward. as you say he's a very good defensive mid, but Aaron Lennon he is not
Zapp Brannigan
Built like a steakhouse, handles like a bistro
That's from specific instructions given by the coaching staff. Obviously not "Pierre Emile, you go and be an inside left playmaker", but a failing of other instruction. Players were clearly being told to fall back into a solid defensive shape as soon as we lost the ball, which meant wing backs into a 5 man defence. So if we did win the ball back, Sessegnon/Perisic/Davies would be 30-40 yards behind play as a starting position, leaving the centre mid on the left of the 2 half the pitch to gallop into. Galloping not being one of his finer strengths!
imposs1904
Thread Killa'
Hey Siri, show me an Urban 75 post where someone exhibits that they know fuck all about Celtic and its fanbase.
Siri: 'See the bolded passage in the above post.'
imposs1904
Thread Killa'
He came in after Celtic lost the previous League campaign by 25 points.
Despite the disappointment, I genuinely wish him well at Spurs . . . unless he tries to sign our best players.
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The bit about the 4th most profit making sports enterprise in the world sounds like bollocks too
