The Urban 6 Nations 2018 Thread

[bendeus]

No. If it comes off the upper body and then hits the knee it's a knock on. If it hits the knee in open play having come off another player it's play on

E2A: before the law change and in his heyday the ridiculously talented Mark Ring used to knee the ball over the oppo backline and gather. He could do it on a dime

 

[Teaboy]

I've read accusations, especially against French TV that suggest that they actively manipulate decisions by choosing whether or not to replay things or by 'not finding' that conclusive camera angle that would firm up a 50/50 decision. Far be it for me to say but there's no doubt that the availability (or lack thereof) of the right camera angle can influence outcomes

Sadly that wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. If you're going to pull a fast one on something as blatant as a player limping off for a HIA then what sort of shenanigans would you get up to behind the scenes?

There does seem a be a bit of this skulduggery in rugby. Dodgy camera angles, HIA's which are clearly not HIA's, replacement props suddenly not fit therefore uncontested scrums. I bet we don't know the half of it.

 

[bendeus]

Sadly that wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. If you're going to pull a fast one on something as blatant as a player limping off for a HIA then what sort of shenanigans would you get up to behind the scenes?

There does seem a be a bit of this skulduggery in rugby. Dodgy camera angles, HIA's which are clearly not HIA's, replacement props suddenly not fit therefore uncontested scrums. I bet we don't know the half of it.

Yeah. But the tacit collusion of TV companies in influencing the outcomes of games is another level again. I'd like to think that it's just paranoia, tbh.

 

[Teaboy]

Anyway, back to the rugby and in a bid to shed the image of a bunch of Orcs, Eddie Jones has recalled Marler, Haskell and Nathan Hughes as they are all available again.

I imagine Hughes will have to play if fit. Whilst they all played well the loose forwards looked a bit of a dogs dinner on Saturday in the way they set up. A second row packing down on the blindside, a 6 playing at seven and finishing at 8. Total rugby is all well and good but a bit more solidity required me thinks.

 

[bendeus]

Anyway, back to the rugby and in a bid to shed the image of a bunch of Orcs, Eddie Jones has recalled Marler, Haskell and Nathan Hughes as they are all available again.

 

[flypanam]

I'll just drop this here and walk away...
World Rugby confirm Anscombe try against England should have stood

 

[Teaboy]

I'll just drop this here and walk away...
World Rugby confirm Anscombe try against England should have stood

Well if Guscott is right they've got that wrong as well. Even a broken clock etc

 

[Reiabuzz]

Six Nations: World Rugby confirm TMO error in England v Wales match

Edit: see you beat me to it!

 

[bendeus]

Well if Guscott is right they've got that wrong as well. Even a broken clock etc

Maybe we can get Guscott to assess a number of other challenges that require incredibly finessed visual acuity, too: hairline cracks in aircraft engines, the makeup of exhaust gases for vehicles whose catalytic converters are faulty or year-on-year reductions in migratory bird numbers to wildlife reserves, for example. The list is almost endless.

 

[Teaboy]

Maybe we can get Guscott to assess a number of other challenges that require incredibly finessed visual acuity, too: hairline cracks in aircraft engines, the makeup of exhaust gases for vehicles whose catalytic converters are faulty or year-on-year reductions in migratory bird numbers to wildlife reserves, for example. The list is almost endless.

He is right though that if you want to go frame by frame for the grounding you probably should for the knock-on as well after all the ref asked for both. Presumably we want the right decision?

 

[bendeus]

He is right though that if you want to go frame by frame for the grounding you probably should for the knock-on as well after all the ref asked for both. Presumably we want the right decision?

He is absolutely right. I'm only questioning whether he saw what he thinks he saw - presumably World Rugby would have undertaken the same exercise when arriving at their position but with very different results

 

[Teaboy]

He is absolutely right. I'm only questioning whether he saw what he thinks he saw - presumably World Rugby would have undertaken the same exercise when arriving at their position but with very different results

Presumably.

It looks like more like a PR exercise to appease than anything else.

 

[bendeus]

Presumably.

It looks like more like a PR exercise to appease than anything else.

How dare you impugn the hereto unimpeachable name of World Rugby!

(on the other hand you've got one pundit saying otherwise based on what he claims to be a minute scrutiny of the frames. I'm not sure it would stand up in court)

 

[gosub]

How dare you impugn the hereto unimpeachable name of World Rugby!

(on the other hand you've got one pundit saying otherwise based on what he claims to be a minute scrutiny of the frames. I'm not sure it would stand up in court)

And how long a career have you had off the back of England RFU?

Objection!


Over ruled! (unless @Old Bailey)

 

[bendeus]

And how long a career have you had off the back of England RFU?

Objection!


Over ruled! (unless @Old Bailey)

I think they use the same lawyer for citing hearings

 

[Grandma Death]

Assuming it brushed his fingers, didn't it then come off his knee, making it a kick?

Does that not negate the knock on?

I believe it does

Anyway world rugby have confirmed the grounding was valid and a try shouldve been deserved

 

[Teaboy]

I believe it does

Anyway world rugby have confirmed the grounding was valid and a try shouldve been deserved

There are people who were watching rugby for the 1st time who knew it was a try, everyone knows it was a try.

Who cares though? I suppose it serves a purpose in that it helps to nurse that sense of injustice and divert attention away from Scott Williams missing a gimmie (which actually was the game) when he had two players on his shoulder and Patchell stinking out Twickenham so bad they are still having to use air fresheners as I write.

 

[bendeus]

There are people who were watching rugby for the 1st time who knew it was a try, everyone knows it was a try.

Who cares though? I suppose it serves a purpose in that it helps to nurse that sense of injustice and divert attention away from Scott Williams missing a gimmie (which actually was the game) when he had two players on his shoulder and Patchell stinking out Twickenham so bad they are still having to use air fresheners as I write.

Agree with this. While the non try was important in terms of both momentum at a critical moment and the later turning down of kickable penalties because we were chasing the game it was not material and we would still have been behind. North (trying to beat the last man through contact rather than passing out to supporting players), Shingler (that fucking grubber) and, most prominently, Williams (already discussed) were guilty of making decisions that at the very least cost good field position and at the most may have squandered a try. As already mentioned, we could have won that game - poor individual decision making contributed significantly to the fact that we didn't.

Agree to a degree with Patchell, though as already mentioned I think he was often illegally targeted (not England's fault - if the ref doesn't blow then carry the fuck on) and the victim of poor service from his 9. I don't think it was all about him having a stinker, or at least, I don't think the stinker was all of his own making.

 

[Grandma Death]

Man who ran to world rugby crying like a baby over awj proceeds to slag off world rugby

Eddie Jones slams World Rugby for saying Anscombe’s try for Wales should have stood

Eddie Jones slams World Rugby for saying Anscombe’s try for Wales should have stood

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[Grandma Death]

Agree with this. While the non try was important in terms of both momentum at a critical moment and the later turning down of kickable penalties because we were chasing the game it was not material and we would still have been behind. North (trying to beat the last man through contact rather than passing out to supporting players), Shingler (that fucking grubber) and, most prominently, Williams (already discussed) were guilty of making decisions that at the very least cost good field position and at the most may have squandered a try. As already mentioned, we could have won that game - poor individual decision making contributed significantly to the fact that we didn't.

Agree to a degree with Patchell, though as already mentioned I think he was often illegally targeted (not England's fault - if the ref doesn't blow then carry the fuck on) and the victim of poor service from his 9. I don't think it was all about him having a stinker, or at least, I don't think the stinker was all of his own making.

There were at least three kickable penalties we didn't go for. Can't help feeling halfpennys absence was more of a blow to us than the TMO decision.

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[bendeus]

Man who ran to world rugby crying like a baby over awj proceeds to slag off world rugby

Eddie Jones slams World Rugby for saying Anscombe’s try for Wales should have stood

Eddie Jones slams World Rugby for saying Anscombe’s try for Wales should have stood

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He's such an odious little cunt

 

[bendeus]

Was also bleating about us being cocky post match. Eye > log

 

[billbond]

He's such an odious little cunt

i think his great
Good for the game and deft could not accuse him of being boring
Rugby needs his type to sell the game and get media coverage

 

[bendeus]

i think his great
Good for the game and deft could not accuse him of being boring
Rugby needs his type to sell the game and get media coverage

Utter bollocks. Rugby is great because it isn't like football. Play acting, waving fake yellow cards and coaches acting like dicks can fuck the fuck off from the game.

E2A: sorry, just realised that had to have been trolling. Very good!

 

[Teaboy]

Jones goes to far, its getting boring and probably counter-productive. I don't mind the odd comment, I think its fair game to bring up Patchell's inexperience but he went over the top. The stuff about AWJ was pointless and just shows a lack of respect, he should have known that AWJ is hugely respected across the rugby spectrum and being the Lions captain demands respect. Thing is though, its just a classic aussie tactic, go for the captain, attack their strongest link. There is a reason why the world is united in thinking aussies play sport like a bunch of cunts.

It seems to be getting worse, journo's love it because they get a soundbite every time but he needs to be a bit cuter. I wonder if if the pressure is beginning to show or maybe the success (relative success) has gone to his head

 

[bendeus]

Jones goes to far, its getting boring and probably counter-productive. I don't mind the odd comment, I think its fair game to bring up Patchell's inexperience but he went over the top. The stuff about AWJ was pointless and just shows a lack of respect, he should have known that AWJ is hugely respected across the rugby spectrum and being the Lions captain demands respect. Thing is though, its just a classic aussie tactic, go for the captain, attack their strongest link. There is a reason why the world is united in thinking aussies play sport like a bunch of cunts.

It seems to be getting worse, journo's love it because they get a soundbite every time but he needs to be a bit cuter. I wonder if if the pressure is beginning to show or maybe the success (relative success) has gone to his head

He's continuing a trajectory started by others (Gatland) but yeah, he does seem to be upping the ante. His antics both before and after Saturday were graceless and without class but that seems not to bother him one iota. Tell you what, though, I'd love to see it all starting to fray at the edges and for the press to turn on him, not because I'm an ABE but because I'm starting to dislike him more and more every time I see his smug little shiny face.

 

[bendeus]

He's continuing a trajectory started by others (Gatland) but yeah, he does seem to be upping the ante. His antics both before and after Saturday were graceless and without class but that seems not to bother him one iota. Tell you what, though, I'd love to see it all starting to fray at the edges and for the press to turn on him, not because I'm an ABE but because I'm starting to dislike him more and more every time I see his smug little shiny face.

gwladrugby.wordpress.com/2018/02/14/honest-eddie/

 

[bendeus]

Well that's alright, then.

 

[flypanam]

Tis a good looking Welsh side
Faletau misses out as Wales name starting XV to face Ireland

 

[bendeus]

Tis a good looking Welsh side
Faletau misses out as Wales name starting XV to face Ireland

Yeah, more than enough there to counter the aerial threat and a lot of danger in the back three. Big question is, can Biggar execute Turkball from 10 in order to get that Scarlet (or ex Scarlet) backline moving? I have my doubts. Interesting that North now seems to be regarded as an impact sub.