The UK Should adopt Islamic Culture?

[invisibleplanet]

No I’m saying he is a hypocrite, books he agrees with (i.e those calling for homosexuals to be hung and unmarried mothers stoned to death)

Where does he agree with books calling for homosexuals to be hung and unmarried mothers stoned to death?

Give proof.

 

[two sheds]

Adopting anything from any religion I find an extremist view especially if it is to be applied to all of the population and not just those of a particular faith.

Aha!! Now we have it. Chymaera wants to ban christmas. The Daily Mail was right there are such people

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

So the UK doesn’t do charity then?

Are you telling me that the Islamic world gives more to Africa, or victims of natural disasters like the Tsunami a couple of Boxing days ago?

Let's take it nice and slowly shall we? You asked me what we could learn from Islam, I suggested that making a concious effort to look after others less well off than you was a good thing. I'm not telling you anything, rather you're leaping to conclusions in pretty abstract and alarming ways. Got a chip or summat?

 

[Dillinger4]

Where does he agree with books calling for homosexuals to be hung and unmarried mothers stoned to death?

Give proof.

He obviously does. He is one of them Muslims. Thats what they all want. Thats what 'Islamic Culture' is all about.

What are you? Stupid?

 

[invisibleplanet]

He obviously does. He is one of them Muslims. Thats what they all want. Thats what 'Islamic Culture' is all about.

What are you? Stupid?

Baffoons should be band

 

[invisibleplanet]

They are both charlatans.

Yes, they are both charlatans.

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

Yes, they are both charlatans.

The only one i know....

 

[mk12]

I can't believe this thread has reached 3 pages. He's blatantly just an idiot looking to wind people up.

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

No!!! Really

 

[audiotech]

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[Das Uberdog]

So the UK doesn’t do charity then?

Are you telling me that the Islamic world gives more to Africa, or victims of natural disasters like the Tsunami a couple of Boxing days ago?

Well - as has already been pointed out - your immediate equation of what we call 'charity' and a principle of 'welath redistribution' as the same thing is both overly specific for such a broad concept, and also bizarrely randomised. But regardless; if you want to talk about a proportionate amount of income given to charity then yes they did. By a considerable amount. You also neglected to mention the Pakistani earthquake in that list of natural disasters, which was almost 100% funded by the Islamic community (despite causing equivocable amounts of lost lives to the Tsunami or any Ethiopean famine).

 

[citygirl]

And what do you think the UK can learn from the Islamic World that would be of value?

making alcohol illegal for starters.

and also, some aspects of sharia law appeal to me.

a good lashing would sort out our overcrowded prison problems

 

[citygirl]

So the UK doesn’t do charity then?

Are you telling me that the Islamic world gives more to Africa, or victims of natural disasters like the Tsunami a couple of Boxing days ago?

they probably would, if they had any to give.

 

[Roadkill]

making alcohol illegal for starters.

and also, some aspects of sharia law appeal to me.

a good lashing would sort out our overcrowded prison problems

I really hope you're not serious...

 

[citygirl]

about which bit?

of course...only some though...and maybe not punisment by lashes.

 

[Roadkill]

Making alcohol illegal? Like that's either desirable or sensible...

 

[citygirl]

ah, so the introduction of a bit of sharia doesn't phase ya then?

phase/faze/whatever

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Making alcohol illegal? Like that's either desirable or sensible...

They'll have to prize my bottle of jack d out of my cold dead hands before I'll agree to that.

 

[Roadkill]

ah, so the introduction of a bit of sharia doesn't phase ya then?

phase/faze/whatever

Tbh I think Dr Bari should STFU. I don't see why I shouldn't treat a man who thinks alcohol should be banned, abortion restricted and homosexuality is 'unacceptable' with anything other than complete contempt, no matter what his religion. IMO religion should be a matter of individual choice and private conscience, and religious leaders should stay away from making political pronouncements.

 

[citygirl]

hey, well, alcohol isn't just a lifestyle thing, is it...on health grounds alone it should be illegal...cannabis is, and for far less "harm" potential...if people could exercise restraint, then i'd probbly have no issues, but seeing as they can't, then it wouldn't be such a bad idea.

however...his anti-homosexuality and his anti-abortion issues i can't agree with. can't see how they might make society "better" in the slightest...but i don't think we'd suffer from making booze illegal. just my opinion

 

[Roadkill]

hey, well, alcohol isn't just a lifestyle thing, is it...on health grounds alone it should be illegal...cannabis is, and for far less "harm" potential...if people could exercise restraint, then i'd probbly have no issues, but seeing as they can't, then it wouldn't be such a bad idea.

however...his anti-homosexuality and his anti-abortion issues i can't agree with. can't see how they might make society "better" in the slightest...but i don't think we'd suffer from making booze illegal. just my opinion

I think this currently fashionable notion that because something has some negative side effects the state should step in and ban it, save us from ourselves as it were, is profoundly frightening.

What happened to people having the freedom to choose, for fuck's sake?

 

[citygirl]

I think this currently fashionable notion that because something has some negative side effects the state should step in and ban it, save us from ourselves as it were, is profoundly frightening.

What happened to people having the freedom to choose, for fuck's sake?

oooh....getting a bit hot in there mate, need a window opening?

bit like speeding then, innit? because *some* people do it to excess, speeding is banned...it has VERY negative side effects...just another thread i noticed...

please yerself...ban it, don't ban it...i still don't use it, and think we'd not suffer if it was prohibited...is all

 

[yield]

...but i don't think we'd suffer from making booze illegal. just my opinion

I respect your opinion but you do know that they tried Prohibition in the United States from 1920 to 1933?

As Roadkill said people have the right to choose. Criminalising it would only do harm, I reckon.

 

[Roadkill]

oooh....getting a bit hot in there mate, need a window opening?

bit like speeding then, innit? because *some* people do it to excess, speeding is banned...it has VERY negative side effects...just another thread i noticed...

please yerself...ban it, don't ban it...i still don't use it, and think we'd not suffer if it was prohibited...is all

Hot? No. irritated? yes.

Yield points out that prohibition has been tried. It failed. Prohibition of 'drugs' at the moment fails, for all of the same reasons and with all the same negative effects.

There's too much blind faith in government about, and too much of a tendency to want to be saved from ourselves. We should value our liberty more.

 

[Calva dosser]

oooh....getting a bit hot in there mate, need a window opening?

bit like speeding then, innit? because *some* people do it to excess, speeding is banned...it has VERY negative side effects...just another thread i noticed...

please yerself...ban it, don't ban it...i still don't use it, and think we'd not suffer if it was prohibited...is all

Too much "We".

YOU would not suffer if it was prohibited.

Minor correction.

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

Interesting, from the pic I thought he was a white convert, but turns out he is from Bangaladesh

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Or in other words, quoting selectively and inaccurately from an article on a topic about which I suspect you know fuck all will win you only very limited support in these parts

Do you agree with Dr. Bari, then?

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Why should such an extraordinarily stupid, ignorant and malicious opening post merit an intelligent response?

Especially when it's about islam.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

So enlighten us. Where in the article did the statement in the title of this thread appear? And what do you think 'islamic culture' is?

His passion is to integrate Muslim and British cultures - he says integration must go both ways.

"Everybody can learn from everyone. Some of the Muslim principles can help social cohesion - family, marriage, raising children with boundaries, giving to the poor, not being too greedy."

British people could, in his view, benefit from arranged marriages. "I prefer to call them assisted marriages," he says.

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[chainsaw cat]

It's a shame the way that the media, including the BBC, has spun this story. It was at the start of the radio bulletins today as "Leading Muslim says Britain should adopt Islamic principles", the implication being that Dr Bari had introduced the notion when evidently he was responding to a leading question e.g "Can mainstream Britain learn anything from Muslims"? to which he responded "Everybody can learn from everyone...". If you asked any community leader such a question you'd expect a similar response.

This is how bullshit rhetorical devices are mutated into sensationalist tabloid bollocks.

Yeah, and well done for defending the Dr., however let's not forget that he is talking utter bullshit 'cos he is a religious person.

Defend his right to talk shit all you like but don't forget it's shit.