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[two sheds]

All Kier needs is a catchy song

 

[DotCommunist]

don't start, thinking about tomorrow, it'll soon be keir

 

[Orang Utan]

All Kier needs is a catchy song

Boris’s should have been Come On Arlene

 

[cupid_stunt]

It's easy to forget now, and it may be difficult for you youngsters to believe, but there really was genuine hope among many people in 1997 that things would be better under a Blair government.

It wasn't like that amongst my social circle in Taunton at the time, there wasn't much hope, it was just a sense of change was needed, much like now, so we kicked out David Nicholson as the sitting Tory MP, replacing him with a LibDem.

Ironically, I was working at a small publishing company at the time, and shared an office with Nicholson's wife, he often popped in and I felt I had to be friendly, as the MD was chair of the local Tory party and leader on West Somerset District Council, and the finance director was high up in the local party too, and had previously stood for the Tories in some by-election.

They never knew this particular manager had helped to unseat Nicholson.

 

[Calamity1971]

Flag shagging up a notch.

 

[Cerv]

every lecture must end with god save the queen. like radio 4 shutting down at night.

 

[ouirdeaux]

I remember 1997. Vividly. I enjoyed election night as much as anyone. But I also remember seeing all the optimistic banners around proclaiming how wonderful things would be, and I kept thinking, 'hey, it's probably going to be better than this shitshow, but Blair doesn't exactly inspire me with enthusiasm'. And, you know, I was right. The Iraq War wasn't just a minor blip.

 

[Dogsauce]

It was better. Not amazing, but definitely better. Stuff got built (though a lot on the never never), people got looked after a bit better, people round where I lived got jobs and stopped doing so much crimey stuff. Things like arts funding actually existed.

There was some cathartic joy in watching the assorted wankers getting kicked out and humiliated, for my generation that had only ever known Tory (mis)rule it felt like breaking free a bit, and some certainty they wouldn’t be back for a long time. I don’t think we have the latter bit now.

 

[existentialist]

I was a bit cynical too, but I still remember a bit of a buzz that many people I knew had about going to vote in 1997.

The bubble soon burst, but it would be foolish to deny that Blair had something in 1997 that Starmer can only dream about.

Blair lacks Starmer's charisn'tma.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

The thing is the current lot are so grim it would take next to nothing to generate some sort of positive vibe around Labour. Maybe not on here but more generally. Starmer is actively going out of his way to make sure that doesn't happen though.

 

[redsquirrel]

I think the difference between 97 and now goes deeper than just Starmer vs Blair, there was the material and cultural factors too. Looking back from 2023 the culture of the mind-90s has more than its fair share of shite - BritPop, lads mags, those awful British gangster films - but there was some sort of feeling (however misplaced) of something new. New Labour leant into, and benefitted, from that. And of course there was the fact that while the 'economy' was a house of cards, the sort of attacks on the working class that had occurred during the 80s, were not stopped but at least slowed down, inequality rising at a much slower rate than previously.

In 2023 I don't know anyone who feels that something positive is around the corner. Admittedly ages plays a role, but to me it does seem a widespread feeling. Even the 'if you don't vote Starmer you're a Tory' brigade don't really seem to think it will result in significant change.

 

[Dogsauce]

All Kier needs is a catchy song

“Kier Starmer, in Pyjamas, is coming down the stairs…” is a frequent earworm I have. Maybe it only works with a Bristol accent though.

 

[PR1Berske]

 

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The PPE scandal was not my fault and I am cutting links with teh tory party says Moan.

MSN

 

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Reaction changed from to

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... deckchair ... popcorn ... court case

edit: court cases

 

[two sheds]

This probably belongs here too

Ex-commissioner for facial recognition tech joins Facewatch firm he approved

Critics say Fraser Samson hiring is ‘outrageous conflict of interest’ as monitoring technology is rolled out in UK high streets

www.theguardian.com

The recently-departed watchdog in charge of monitoring facial recognition technology has joined the private firm he controversially approved, paving the way for the mass roll-out of biometric surveillance cameras in high streets across the country.
In a move critics have dubbed an “outrageous conflict of interest”, Professor Fraser Sampson, former biometrics and surveillance camera commissioner, has joined Facewatch as a non-executive director.

Sampson left his watchdog role on 31 October, with Companies House records showing he was registered as a company director at Facewatch the following day, 1 November. Campaigners claim this might mean he was negotiating his Facewatch contract while in post, and have urged the advisory committee on business appointments to investigate if it may have “compromised his work in public office”. It is understood that the committee is currently considering the issue.
Facewatch uses biometric cameras to check faces against a watch list and, despite widespread concern over the technology, has received backing from the Home Office, and has already been introduced in hundreds of high-street shops and supermarkets.

 

[teqniq]

The PPE scandal was not my fault and I am cutting links with teh tory party says Moan.

MSN

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She has commissioned a documentary. Please leave a comment if you're signed up to Twitter:

 

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I have never been near twatter.

 

[two sheds]

I'm looking forward to the court case(s) version of the documentary. Can quite believe what she said about the government, will be interested to see whether the ppe (a) was as cheap as she said (b) conformed with regulations as she said (c) was sterile as she said.

VIP lane for tory mates is as dodgy as fuck either way.

 

[cupid_stunt]

I have never been near twatter.

It's on youtube, I am watching it now.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

some tories are "toxic mad fascists"

- tory peer baroness warsi

more here.

 

[brogdale]

some tories are "toxic mad fascists"

- tory peer baroness warsi

more here.

but still a party member?

 

[story]

It would be interesting to see that graph against global stuff like wars, pandemics, climate change events.

(the latter probably not show up as a clear direct causative factor yet, but it’s in there)

Tories pissing in the wind , unaware of anything outside their own enormous landed gated inherited back yard.

 

[story]

It would be interesting to see that graph against global stuff like wars, pandemics, climate change events.

(the latter probably not show up as a clear direct causative factor yet, but it’s in there)

Tories pissing in the wind , unaware of anything outside their own enormous landed gated inherited back yard.

Tories who don’t have their own inherited land, companies, property portfolios, ££hoards, they’re the ones who were, in earlier times, happy to work below stairs, shoring up the whole system.

 

[story]

I find it weird that they think they really can push this through.

Let’s see what happens next week.

Rwanda asylum bill is too weak to be a deterrent, says Robert Jenrick

The ex-immigration minister says the PM's bill to revive the asylum scheme "doesn't do the job".

www.bbc.co.uk

But, speaking to BBC One's Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg, Mr Jenrick said the legislation in its current form would still allow a "range of legal claims that will bog down our scheme".
"I'm afraid it's very clear to all those people who really understand how this system operates that this bill will not succeed," he told the programme.
He added that people under threat of deportation would still be able to appeal on the grounds that Rwanda, even if generally safe, is not individually safe for them.
"I think that a political choice has been made to bring forward a bill which doesn't do the job," he said.
He had quit as immigration minister because he couldn't ask MPs to vote for a legislation he deemed "a weak bill that won't work," he added.
The government had already introduced two bills to deal with the issue of illegal migration, he said, adding: "It's three strikes or you're out".
Although he conceded the Rwanda plan could eventually lead to some "symbolic" flights taking off, there would not be enough deportations to deter people from crossing the English Channel.
The bill to revive the scheme has divided opinions among Conservative MPs, whose support Mr Sunak will need to ensure the bill passes its first parliamentary stage next week.

However, they could well shove it through with whips and bribes, and then the next lot can deal with the inevitable shit show that will follow.

 

[brogdale]

I find it weird that they think they really can push this through.

Let’s see what happens next week.

Rwanda asylum bill is too weak to be a deterrent, says Robert Jenrick

The ex-immigration minister says the PM's bill to revive the asylum scheme "doesn't do the job".

www.bbc.co.uk

However, they could well shove it through with whips and bribes, and then the next lot can deal with the inevitable shit show that will follow.

There's got to be a fair chance that rat-boy will squeak this through its second reading on Tuesday because it does actually need at least 29 headbangers or 'wets' (or whatever they're called these days) to vote against the govt. But that's only the start of it and the next parliamentary stages will be a real slog. I suppose it depends if the toxic fash faction really have a decapitation strategy?

 

[cupid_stunt]

The madness seems to have peaked.

A group of right-wing Conservative MPs are reportedly drawing up a bizarre plan for the disgraced ex-PM to team up with Nigel Farage at the helm of the party. The rebel MPs want to "crash" Mr Sunak's Government to make way for the return of Mr Johnson. They have drawn up what they call an "Advent calendar of s**t" to carry out their plans, which include going against the Government in Commons votes and making increasingly outspoken interventions, according to the Mail on Sunday.

Some Tories are now considering pushing forward the idea of a leadership pact between Mr Johnson and Mr Farage. They argue the disgraced Partygate PM is the only person who can battle off the threat of Reform UK. But a spokesman for Mr Johnson would not be drawn on his political ambitions, and denied the existence of any plans to team up with Mr Farage. "Boris Johnson is currently writing a book and is supporting the Government," he said. Meanwhile a source close to Mr Farage told the newspaper any deal between the pair would "soon end in tears".

It's like they are playing some sort of fantasy politics game, absolutory bonkers.

Tory MPs 'want Boris Johnson to return as PM' - in deal with Nigel Farage

Disgruntled Tory MPs have been plotting how to crash Rishi Sunak's government with an incredible plan for Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage to join forces at the helm of the party

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

The PPE scandal was not my fault and I am cutting links with teh tory party says Moan.

MSN

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How bad do I feel?

 

[DotCommunist]

is that ally cambell putting his name to byline about trust in politics.