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Only because the nasty c*nt was caught on camera...

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(Source: as stated in iamge)

The Rt Hon Bob Stewart DSO MP is appalling appealing and his friends have already raised more than £19,000 to reward appeal against his conviction.
 
The last time we had a Tory government on its way out was pre-1997. I don't remember it feeling quite this chaotic/fucked up/ridiculous as this though (or have I just managed to forget..?)
No, this is an order of magnitude worse. And it's been in plain sight for a good long while, which wasn't quite the case last time around. I mean, the infighting got pretty blatant, but the sheer level of incompetence this lot has shown is unprecedented in my adult lifetime.
 
The last time we had a Tory government on its way out was pre-1997. I don't remember it feeling quite this chaotic/fucked up/ridiculous as this though (or have I just managed to forget..?)

Indeed it wasnt. Sections of the tory press did spend the entire post-Thatcher tory years engaging in friendly fire, but Major was still considered a 'safe pair of hands', especially true now, relative to the shits of the last few years we've had. And no matter how much momentum New Labour had, and how doomed the tories looked like they would be at that next election, they could still console themselves with how good Major on the campaign trail, on his soapbox, and how they won the previous election despite expectations. I dont think there was an obvious successor either, as we saw later via the calibre of leaders the tories ended up with post-defeat.

Having said that, there were still plenty of moments of ridicule in the Major years, including the traffic cones hotline and a parade of private life sleaze that made a mockery of their 'back to basics' campaign.
 
Also Major managed to outwit any challengers. He did a 'put up or shut up' thing and Portillo decided not to challenge him at that moment, leaving fucking John Redwood as the alternative that the far right of the tory party could support. I think the media still had a bit of a field day because there were some signs that Portillo might be preparing to challenge Major in a second round, but that second round never came so that was the end of that.
 
The last time we had a Tory government on its way out was pre-1997. I don't remember it feeling quite this chaotic/fucked up/ridiculous as this though (or have I just managed to forget..?)
I think the main difference now is that there are far more 'mad, bad, and dangerous to know' Tories than there was in 1997 (I was ten, so I could be wrong).
Fundamentally, Cameron's changes in how prospective Tory MPs were selected has allowed some extrmemly dodgy fuckers to enter Parliament.

Which is the long term issue.
They're not going to stop being this overtly for right after the next election (even if they lose), so whoever comes in (for arguments sake, Labour) better not fuck it up, because what comes after that could be many magnitudes worse than what's happened in the past 10 years.


I think a good place to start is not to praise the person most ethically and politically opposed to your main support ba....- oh...
 
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The last time we had a Tory government on its way out was pre-1997. I don't remember it feeling quite this chaotic/fucked up/ridiculous as this though (or have I just managed to forget..?)
Like steveo87 I'm a bit young to remember the details of the late Thatcher-Major period, but would I be right to say that people had more hope in Blair than they have in Starmer?
 
Like steveo87 I'm a bit young to remember the details of the late Thatcher-Major period, but would I be right to say that people had more hope in Blair than they have in Starmer?

It's easy to forget now, and it may be difficult for you youngsters to believe, but there really was genuine hope among many people in 1997 that things would be better under a Blair government.

He at least appeared, however superficially, to be a positive alternative to the Tories, but it's pretty much impossible to say the same about Starmer.
 
It's easy to forget now, and it may be difficult for you youngsters to believe, but there really was genuine hope among many people in 1997 that things would be better under a Blair government.

He at least appeared, however superficially, to be a positive alternative to the Tories, but it's pretty much impossible to say the same about Starmer.
This ^. It felt at the time that they had some fresh ideas and would do things differently to the Tories. (Okay some of us were cynical but...)
 
This ^. It felt at the time that they had some fresh ideas and would do things differently to the Tories. (Okay some of us were cynical but...)

I was a bit cynical too, but I still remember a bit of a buzz that many people I knew had about going to vote in 1997.

The bubble soon burst, but it would be foolish to deny that Blair had something in 1997 that Starmer can only dream about.
 
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