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This make grim reading.

Food and drink exports to EU down 75%.

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It's ONE month and quite probably the worst one at that. Let's have a look at 6mnths and a year.

Concure. But that fuck up is completely on the politicians Its all very well spending a fuckton of taxpayers money telling people to Get ready for Brexit, yet not actually finalising what it means til 2weeks before it happens . Was always going to be a fuckup. I think we have lost a not insignificant proportion of that tradefor good but I think quite a fair bit will bounce back
 
It's not just musicians getting shafted.

Whisky, cheese and chocolate producers have suffered the biggest post-Brexit export losses in the food and drink sector, new figures from HMRC have shown.

Analysis of the figures by the Food and Drink Federation (FDF) shows that cheese exports in January plummeted from £45m to £7m year on year, while whisky exports nosedived from £105m to £40m. Chocolate exports went from £41.4m to just £13m, a decline of 68%.
Exports of some other goods such as salmon and beef almost stopped altogether, with declines of 98% and 92% respectively, but by value they were the 7th and 4th biggest losers of the top 10 exports to the EU.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/mar/13/uk-exporters-brexit-damage-costs-customs-paperwork
Overall, trade in fish, thanks partly to a complete ban on the exports of certain live shellfish, dropped by 79%.
 
I remain hopeful that the EU abandons English as one of it’s three working languages (German, French and English) and replaces it with what I think would be a good choice, Spanish.
 
I don't know how significant the official languages of the EU are to every day actions by every day people, but I would imagine that a certain number of English speaking Irish residents could be inconvenienced by this suggestion, if indeed it is significant

But after philosophical has argued for blackouts in NI, I suppose forcing Irish citizens to learn Spanish was a logical next step.
 
Blackouts in Northern Ireland is what leave voters voted for.
Or to paraphrase somebody somewhere did those voters vote to leave but retain the exact same benefits of remaining?
Irish citizens would not be ‘forced’ to learn Spanish any more than they are forced to learn German, French or English at present.
 
Blackouts in Northern Ireland is what leave voters voted for.
Or to paraphrase somebody somewhere did those voters vote to leave but retain the exact same benefits of remaining?
Irish citizens would not be ‘forced’ to learn Spanish any more than they are forced to learn German, French or English at present.
So what is the significance of the "official" EU languages to those citizens of the EU who are not native speakers of any of those languages?

Does it actually make any difference to most EU citizens what the "official" languages are?
 
Think it's something that came about because, in the olden days, it was standard for big international agreements to have official English and French versions, with other translations not being legally binding. Same still applies with the UN.

It's not really to do with how many French and English speakers there are in the EU. The official language of EFTA is English, even though none of it's member countries speak English (officially, at least).
 
It's pretty handy that loads of EU stuff is written in English. It's not like EU legislation, regulations and so on are going to become irrelevant to the UK now.
 
It's pretty handy that loads of EU stuff is written in English. It's not like EU legislation, regulations and so on are going to become irrelevant to the UK now.
Although it can catch you out because the Euros use English in a more literal way than the English, meaning that sometimes words mean something completely different in EUglish than in actual English. An example is the word “actual”, which the Euros use to mean ”current”. And when I was dealing with the French regulator on something, they were forever asking us to ”precise” the reasons for things, which took us a while to get the hang of. More here:


It can be worse when somebody uses your language but uses it differently than when they just use a completely different language.
 
I believe there are two strata. Official languages and working languages.
official and procedural.

Official is whatever is recognised as 'official' by member nation states, thus Castilian is in, but not Catalan. Irish is a pretty recent addition. So English remains as an official language because (like Dutch, Swedish and Greek) it is used by two states. Even now, almost half of EU citizens speaks enough English to hold a conversation.
 
It's pretty handy that loads of EU stuff is written in English. It's not like EU legislation, regulations and so on are going to become irrelevant to the UK now.
No indeed there'll be a continuing need for toilet paper in the UK, so you'll be able to read before you wipe
 
"Euro English" lol, someone's taking the piss. It doesn't even matter either, because a) it's funny and b) everybody gets English wrong, even the English (which is largely why English is the mess it is)
Euro English is what EU legislation is drafted in, though, and those differences can genuinely catch you out.
 
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