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gosub
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Concure. But that fuck up is completely on the politicians Its all very well spending a fuckton of taxpayers money telling people to Get ready for Brexit, yet not actually finalising what it means til 2weeks before it happens . Was always going to be a fuckup. I think we have lost a not insignificant proportion of that tradefor good but I think quite a fair bit will bounce back
gosub
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Trans Polar passage will be open by 2050
editor
hiraethified
It's not just musicians getting shafted.
www.theguardian.com
Data shows collapse of UK food and drink exports post-Brexit
HMRC figures reveal huge year-on-year falls in trade, with whisky, cheese and chocolate worst hit
andysays
Love and solidarity
No one, no one at all.
No one in the entire history of the EU, far less during the Brexit debate has ever made any dubious claims about the benefits of the EU, or even said anything positive about it.
I don't know what came over me or why I mentioned it.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Depends how quickly Boris Johnson and the other former people build the route across Antarctica
philosophical
Well-Known Member
I remain hopeful that the EU abandons English as one of it’s three working languages (German, French and English) and replaces it with what I think would be a good choice, Spanish.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
Why do you think anyone here would care?
gosub
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Que?
philosophical
Well-Known Member
Maybe if they had Spanish GCSE.
Also I hope it would irritate the cunts who voted leave if they harbour imperialistic thoughts.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
I'm genuinely interested in why you think Brits would be interested in the languages spoken in an organisation they are not members of...
Why would I care?
andysays
Love and solidarity
I don't know how significant the official languages of the EU are to every day actions by every day people, but I would imagine that a certain number of English speaking Irish residents could be inconvenienced by this suggestion, if indeed it is significant
But after philosophical has argued for blackouts in NI, I suppose forcing Irish citizens to learn Spanish was a logical next step.
But after philosophical has argued for blackouts in NI, I suppose forcing Irish citizens to learn Spanish was a logical next step.
philosophical
Well-Known Member
Blackouts in Northern Ireland is what leave voters voted for.
Or to paraphrase somebody somewhere did those voters vote to leave but retain the exact same benefits of remaining?
Irish citizens would not be ‘forced’ to learn Spanish any more than they are forced to learn German, French or English at present.
Or to paraphrase somebody somewhere did those voters vote to leave but retain the exact same benefits of remaining?
Irish citizens would not be ‘forced’ to learn Spanish any more than they are forced to learn German, French or English at present.
andysays
Love and solidarity
So what is the significance of the "official" EU languages to those citizens of the EU who are not native speakers of any of those languages?
Does it actually make any difference to most EU citizens what the "official" languages are?
philosophical
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I believe there are two strata. Official languages and working languages.
Raheem
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Think it's something that came about because, in the olden days, it was standard for big international agreements to have official English and French versions, with other translations not being legally binding. Same still applies with the UN.
It's not really to do with how many French and English speakers there are in the EU. The official language of EFTA is English, even though none of it's member countries speak English (officially, at least).
It's not really to do with how many French and English speakers there are in the EU. The official language of EFTA is English, even though none of it's member countries speak English (officially, at least).
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
They should prepare for the future and make Mandarin the official language.
Although it can catch you out because the Euros use English in a more literal way than the English, meaning that sometimes words mean something completely different in EUglish than in actual English. An example is the word “actual”, which the Euros use to mean ”current”. And when I was dealing with the French regulator on something, they were forever asking us to ”precise” the reasons for things, which took us a while to get the hang of. More here:
Euro English - Wikipedia
It can be worse when somebody uses your language but uses it differently than when they just use a completely different language.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
official and procedural.
Official is whatever is recognised as 'official' by member nation states, thus Castilian is in, but not Catalan. Irish is a pretty recent addition. So English remains as an official language because (like Dutch, Swedish and Greek) it is used by two states. Even now, almost half of EU citizens speaks enough English to hold a conversation.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
No indeed there'll be a continuing need for toilet paper in the UK, so you'll be able to read before you wipe
Raheem
Well-Known Member
Don't you believe it. The Lingua Franca of the future will be memes and emojis.
mojo pixy
...שלא נמצא בשמאל
Euro English - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
It can be worse when somebody uses your language but uses it differently than when they just use a completely different language.
"Euro English" lol, someone's taking the piss. It doesn't even matter either, because a) it's funny and b) everybody gets English wrong, even the English (which is largely why English is the mess it is)
philosophical
Well-Known Member
Absolutely.
My wife has had several Mandarin textbooks published, and she is a lecturer in the language at a London University.
The demand is out there.
Euro English is what EU legislation is drafted in, though, and those differences can genuinely catch you out.
Elpenor
Dancing as fast as I can
Or Vogon
ska invita
back on the other side
my point confirmed from the horses:
'Greed' and 'capitalism' helped UK's vaccines success, says PM
But Boris Johnson immediately retracts the comments made during a Zoom meeting with Tory MPs.
www.bbc.co.uk
ska invita
back on the other side
"negligence and maladministration" lol
good luck with the court case - not sure if they've got a legal foot to stand on - I expect not - but it definitely is negligence and maladministration
good luck with the court case - not sure if they've got a legal foot to stand on - I expect not - but it definitely is negligence and maladministration
Doppelgänger
There's only one of me!
The British government doesn't give two fucks about any of this. They will just continue to do as they please and for whatever reason the electorate will continue to turn a blind eye.
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