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[Spymaster]

An abomination.

If you haven't had a battered oyster you haven't lived.

 

[two sheds]

If you haven't had a battered oyster you haven't lived.

So much for animal welfare

 

[TopCat]

So much for animal welfare

Better to be eaten here than transported live and eaten abroad. Same for animals.

 

[two sheds]

Battering them though

 

[Pickman's model]

Battering them though

battered fish are nice. and battered sausages. but battered animals less so.

 

[bimble]

Better to be eaten here than transported live and eaten abroad. Same for animals.

Oysters do not have brains. They don’t really care.

 

[TopCat]

Oysters do not have brains. They don’t really care.

Heartless.

 

[two sheds]

I hadn't thought of this as a side product of Brexit - good development. I hope we don't start live deliveries to other places.

There's also the threat in the future of low-cost meat coming into the country that will force down animal welfare standards by british farmers.

Will be interested to see how it balances out in the long term.

 

[editor]

Not everyone who works in the finance industry or whose livelihood depends on it is a rich banker.

But the boss of Barclays most certainly is.

 

[bimble]

The government is writing letters to the EU claiming that the oysters want to travel

Exclusive: Government Is Writing To The EU Over Post-Brexit Shellfish Ban Which Threatens To Destroy Businesses

The government is set to write to the European Union as soon as today about the bloc's post-Brexit ban on mussels, cockles, and other shellfish cau...

www.politicshome.com

 

[editor]

You seem to have missed this bit: an industry that provides 11% of the UK's tax receipts

If you're asking to me to start applauding what banking industry bosses say and be grateful for whatever amount of tax they reluctant pay once they've exhausted all the tax evasion schemes, be prepared for long bouts of silence.

 

[two sheds]

The government is writing letters to the EU claiming that the oysters want to travel

Exclusive: Government Is Writing To The EU Over Post-Brexit Shellfish Ban Which Threatens To Destroy Businesses

The government is set to write to the European Union as soon as today about the bloc's post-Brexit ban on mussels, cockles, and other shellfish cau...

www.politicshome.com

Oh Christ it's Useless Eustace we're fucked.

 

[TopCat]

If you're asking to me to start applauding what banking industry bosses say and be grateful for whatever amount of tax they reluctant pay once they've exhausted all the tax evasion schemes, be prepared for long bouts of silence.

It’s been mentioned as several remainers on urban have stressed the amount of GDP the financial sector contributes and how this was and is threatened by Brexit.

 

[editor]

It’s been mentioned as several remainers on urban have stressed the amount of GDP the financial sector contributes and how this was and is threatened by Brexit.

You're doing that thing again of responding to a supposed viewpoint that has little relation to what I actually posted.

 

[TopCat]

You're doing that thing again of responding to a supposed viewpoint that has little relation to what I actually posted.

Well you keep mentioning the detrimental effects of Brexit. Is the potential loss for the financial sector not one of those?

 

[Pickman's model]

It’s been mentioned as several remainers on urban have stressed the amount of GDP the financial sector contributes and how this was and is threatened by Brexit.

you don't need to be a remainer to wonder what's going to happen should johnson fuck the city of london. i for one never thought it would be a tory government which might stop the city more effectively than j18

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

If you're asking to me to start applauding what banking industry bosses say and be grateful for whatever amount of tax they reluctant pay once they've exhausted all the tax evasion schemes, be prepared for long bouts of silence.

Please point to the post where I asked you to applaud anything?

What I did do is highlight the part of my post that you seemed to have accidentally missed (but now I am suspecting that you wilfully ignored it) which flies in the face of your idea that the general population won’t benefit from this.

Anyway, I shall await your quoting of me asking you to applaud something.

 

[Sasaferrato]

TopCat

Please give just one benefit to me of us leaving the EU.

 

[steeplejack]

The fishing communities universally voted to leave. Be very careful what you wish for, you might get it.

They didn't, but if you're happy dismissing something you have no understanding of on the basis of what you read in the Express then don't let me stop you.

 

[The39thStep]

TopCat

Please give just one benefit to me of us leaving the EU.

Have you heard of Terry Christian?

 

[kabbes]

I'm sure many here will rejoice at this news... Forget Frankfurt and Paris, says Barclays boss

In fact, he said the UK's robust regulation was a major strength, not weakness, and referred to the recent clampdown on firms offering buy now, pay later schemes as reassuring.
"You see what's happening right now with buy now, pay later, you know, the FCA is going to come in and start to increase the regulation of that marketplace. That's the right thing to do.
"And, in a funny way we've gotten pretty good at working inside the regulatory framework that is here. It protects the financial industry in London as we learn how to deal with this regulation, and it makes the bank safer."

FWIW, I agree with this part

 

[Spymaster]

Not everyone who works in the finance industry or whose livelihood depends on it is a rich banker.

There's a danger here of unintentionally creating a simplistic binary of good and bad industries, and suggesting that what's good for a particular industry is necessarily good or bad for people in general, depending which side of the line we think the industry is positioned.

Fuck the livelihoods of tens of thousands in the financial sector. It’s a handful of touring musicians we should be sympathising with.

 

[Raheem]

Have you heard of Terry Christian?

That's a question that needs it's own thread, really.

 

[andysays]

But the boss of Barclays most certainly is.

This is the same sort of argument that you object to when someone dismisses an article complaining about the effects of Brexit on the music industry because it's written by Bob Geldof.

 

[editor]

Please point to the post where I asked you to applaud anything?

What I did do is highlight the part of my post that you seemed to have accidentally missed (but now I am suspecting that you wilfully ignored it) which flies in the face of your idea that the general population won’t benefit from this.

Anyway, I shall await your quoting of me asking you to applaud something.

Overall, do you think the general population benefits from the existence of high paid bankers and the system that they employ to make profits?

 

[andysays]

Fuck the livelihoods of tens of thousands in the financial sector. It’s a handful of touring musicians we should be sympathising with.

There does appear to be a double standard at work here.

You can't really expect to get sympathy for the effects of Brexit on your own industry while simultaneously dismissing the effects on someone else's (see also eg fishing).

 

[editor]

Well you keep mentioning the detrimental effects of Brexit. Is the potential loss for the financial sector not one of those?

I'd love the financial sector to be torn apart and the profits of its parasitic bosses reduced to pennies and a new, fairer system put in its place. But it's great to see you batting on their team.

 

[TopCat]

I'd love the financial sector to be torn apart and the profits of its parasitic bosses reduced to pennies and a new, fairer system put in its place. But it's great to see you batting on their team.

Well you might get your wish. If you do would you list it as a benefit of Brexit?

 

[Sasaferrato]

They didn't, but if you're happy dismissing something you have no understanding of on the basis of what you read in the Express then don't let me stop you.

They voted for Brexit. Now many British fishermen feel betrayed.

Fishermen complain of broken government promises, while exporters say they are choking on red tape.

www.nbcnews.com

Why did the fishing industry vote for Brexit? – podcast

In June 2016, polls suggested that 92% of the fishing industry voted to leave the EU. Sam Wollaston spent four days onboard a trawler to find out why. Plus: Nesrine Malik argues that Hillary Clinton is wrong to claim that curbing migration is the answer to right-wing populism

www.theguardian.com

British fishermen fear they won't get what they voted for after Brexit

Fishermen who were some of the most vocal supporters of Brexit are worried they may not end up with what they voted for.

news.sky.com

Why did 92% of UK fishermen vote to leave the EU?

Answer (1 of 21): As a person who was born into a fishing family, in a major fishing town where the main industry was fishing and its supporting industries, I can say this. Yes, the cod war damaged the industry enormously, the US pressure to yield to Icelandic demands of a 200 mile limit signific...

www.quora.com

British fishermen want out of the EU – here’s why

New surveys show the overwhelming antipathy for the EU among UK fishermen.

theconversation.com

Brexit regrets for UK fishermen as border delays slash profits

“I think, if we knew this was going to happen, I honestly think things might have been different, people would have voted differently,"

www.euronews.com

Anything else that you care to be proven wrong on?

 

[steeplejack]

They voted for Brexit. Now many British fishermen feel betrayed.

Fishermen complain of broken government promises, while exporters say they are choking on red tape.

www.nbcnews.com

An American news company interviewing 2-3 fishermen is of course conclusive proof that fishing community "universally voted for Brexit".

Just as well you worked in a pharmacy (as I recall) rather than a legal office.