Oh aye, they're amazing creatures, but eating them is like chewing on a fish-flavoured bath sponge.
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Oh aye, they're amazing creatures, but eating them is like chewing on a fish-flavoured bath sponge.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Good on them - about time.
Au Cointreau Rodney, they are tray delis-yer!
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Britain and EU clash over claims to UK-produced Covid vaccine
EU health commissioner dismisses AstraZeneca argument it is contractually obliged to supply UK first
TopCat
Putin fanboy
The EU's vaccine bust-up with AstraZeneca is partly of its own making | Leo Cendrowicz
Slowness to sign up to and approve the vaccine may have caused delays, but Brussels feels the company is being less than cooperative, says Leo Cendrowicz
The EU's vaccine bust-up with AstraZeneca is partly of its own making | Leo Cendrowicz
Slowness to sign up to and approve the vaccine may have caused delays, but Brussels feels the company is being less than cooperative, says Leo Cendrowiczwww.theguardian.com
Also this
EU pays 336 million euros to secure AstraZeneca's potential COVID-19 vaccine
The European Commission has made a 336 million euro ($396 million) downpayment to British drug maker AstraZeneca <AZN.L> to secure at least 300 million doses of its potential COVID-19 vaccine, a spokesman said on Thursday.
mobile.reuters.com
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Why has the EU been so slow to roll out a Covid vaccination programme? | Guntram Wolff
Europe was not prepared for the pandemic, but it must now learn lessons and use all its financial and political resources, says Guntram Wolff, director of the Bruegel thinktank
It's not already?
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Well this quote from the first Guardian article is pretty heated and indicates a more polarised attitude than was expressed a few days ago.
"If there is anyone thinking that European citizens would accept that we give this high quality vaccine to the United Kingdom and would accept to be treated as second class by a UK-based company, I think the only consequence can be to immediately stop the export of the BioNTech/Pfizer vaccine. And then we are in the middle of a trade war. So the company and the UK better think twice.”
TopCat
Putin fanboy
The CEO of AstraZeneca has said a lot, directly, in the last 24 hours. Worth reading.
ska invita
back on the other side
what do you think should happen?
my only thought is that as many lives are save as possible, which means it is a priority that over 70s get vaccinated, on which grounds those countries that havent got the vaccine out yet should get priority
TopCat
Putin fanboy
So you think the rollout should be clinically led, worldwide?
ska invita
back on the other side
In an ideal world each according to need
In this case some international solidarity in the spirit of saving lives
Bollocks to Covid nationalism
Johnson is going to Scotland today to Save The Union - his message (supposeldy)? I can get you vaccines ahead of others in the EU. Cunt
Supine
Newt Member
You're not exactly selling brexit as a good thing at the moment
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Ok. But any comment on this current, fast moving disagreement?
bimble
floofy
This looks really bad doesn’t it. Of all the things to have a trade war about . 
www.theguardian.com
Why the EU and AstraZeneca are stuck in a Covid vaccines row
Explainer: AstraZeneca’s Pascal Soriot gives insight into ‘glitches’ that constrained production
ska invita
back on the other side
What do you think should happen?
To me sounds like a shitshow between self-interested nation-states acting selfishly within a marketplace, so nothing to do with me
Tories are pinning all their incompetence and death rate on having best been able to buy a vaccine before others <as a rule of thumb fuck them and their endless corrupt procurements.
i have no allegiance to any particular nation-state here, certainly not BRITAIN FIRST, my allegiance is with the most vulnerable.
i hope that doesn't sound too self-righteous but ive just woken up and i get like this at 7am before tea
ska invita
back on the other side
I'm not all that interested in the precise details but I did read a piece in the FT about the ongoing City arrangements, best summarised as London being a slowly deflating balloon, though no other particular EU city has yet claimed the mantle, though the direction seems to be steadily towards these other EU centres. That Twitter thread suggests the speed of the deflating balloon might be more like a sat on whoopie cushion
I suppose this is good news on one level in that Im personally happy to see UK Casino PLC get a kicking and a slow deflation is better than an overnight collapse. Worth remembering that IIRC two thirds of City jobs are all support work (IT, cleaning, offices jobs etc etc). Just maybe London might become a bit more of the liveable city it once was before the bankers skyscrapers went up
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i expect theres going to be a lot of this kind of delusion going on the next few years
TopCat
Putin fanboy
I think all sides should tone down any public spats and try and diffuse the tensions before the jingoistic types on both sides make a meal out of it.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Yeah, that's not going to happen though after the last 5 years saw the loonspuds invited inside
ska invita
back on the other side
The only way thats going to happen is if the Tories make a concession on how much vaccine the EU gets
The Tories are already staking all their political-covid-eggs on the vaccine, so no chance of that, particularly in the shadow of Britain First Brexit
So I can only see this escalating.
Icelandic seafood exporters to bypass Immingham for Rotterdam
Brexit delays cause Iceland to adapt. Iceland Review reports that delays and interruptions due to new Brexit rules mean that Icelandic exporters are moving seafood to Europe through Rotterdam, Netherlands, instead of Immingham docks, 6 miles from Grimsby, eastern England. Back in February 2020...
salmonbusiness.com
andysays
Love and solidarity
From what I've read, the EU haven't even approved the AZ vaccine yet.
And if we're really seeking to prioritize the most vulnerable worldwide, I'm not convinced that the EU seeking to force suppliers of vaccine to supply EU countries first is the way to go.
The EU are not "the goodies" here, by any stretch of the imagination
ska invita
back on the other side
war is what my-nation-state first + protectionism is all about, see history for details, no?
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
That German MEP prick with his “they better think twice” “they will be made to suffer” isn’t exactly toning shit down. This over a vaccine that is not even approved for use in Germany or any other EU country.
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