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[prunus]

Another tiny cut. Can't help but suspect we are going to get to 1000.

Mastercard to raise fees to EU firms by 500% for online sales to UK shoppers

 

[Raheem]

Another tiny cut. Can't help but suspect we are going to get to 1000.

Mastercard to raise fees to EU firms by 500% for online sales to UK shoppers

Or 999, which will be worse.

 

[Pickman's model]

Sure. One more thing about Spain, while I don't think you can call the Spanish Civil War within living memory now - any surviving combatants will be over 100 - it certainly was in the 1970s. Indeed all they'd known was Franco since the civil war. The scale of the horror of that war and the brutal years that followed it, and their long-term effects, shouldn't be underestimated.

i think you're taking the piss as in living memory means events which are remembered by someone living. and there are yet some veterans of the spanish civil war alive, as this list attests List of surviving veterans of the Spanish Civil War - Wikipedia

there are about 12,000 people in spain over 100. shall we write off their memories of the period of the civil war?

 

[Artaxerxes]

Construction material shortages could delay UK housebuilding

Builders battle for supplies on back of Covid crisis and price increases

www.theguardian.com

One builders’ merchant said they were being given an August delivery date for roofing materials, such as pitched roof tiles, compared with a usual three-month wait because, even with extra shifts, UK factories were struggling to keep up.

The industry also continues to be affected by shortages of power tools, screws and fixings, stemming from congestion at UK ports. Companies now face increased shipping costs because of a global shortage of empty containers. Timber prices are also up by a fifth.

It's blaming Covid but congestion at the ports is something we're seeing due to brexit

 

[Roadkill]

It's blaming Covid but congestion at the ports is something we're seeing due to brexit

Tbf it isn't only Brexit. The pandemic has badly disrupted global shipping, and there's still a shortage of containers in some places and a backlog of empty ones in others. But it is true that Brexit isn't helping at all.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Tbf it isn't only Brexit. The pandemic has badly disrupted global shipping, and there's still a shortage of containers in some places and a backlog of empty ones in others. But it is true that Brexit isn't helping at all.

Double whammy of shit, triple if you count the vat changes

 

[mauvais]

Anecdotal parcels update.

I ordered some trainers recently. Turns out they're dispatched from a fulfilment centre in Belgium. They got into the UK within a day and have been stuck somewhere called Stanford le Hope for a week. No estimate for delivery and loads of people reporting long delays. UPS are thoroughly useless and their lack of info is not entirely new but I suspect their operation is totally fucked.

On the other hand I also ordered something from Belfast and that's on its way fine via DHL, so far anyway.

 

[inva]

Anecdotal parcels update.

I ordered some trainers recently. Turns out they're dispatched from a fulfilment centre in Belgium. They got into the UK within a day and have been stuck somewhere called Stanford le Hope for a week. No estimate for delivery and loads of people reporting long delays. UPS are thoroughly useless and their lack of info is not entirely new but I suspect their operation is totally fucked.

Totally fucked is an improvement on their usual level of service so I'd chalk that up as a win for brexit tbh.

 

[teqniq]

Proper cunts trick.

 

[The39thStep]

Good news for orange lovers

 

[two sheds]

Proper cunts trick.

Someone should clamp that van parked up by them, it shouldn't be parked there

 

[TopCat]

Coronavirus: Vaccine supply fears grow amid EU export threat

The EU calls for "fair" distribution after vaccine companies cut back on pledged supplies.

www.bbc.co.uk

The EU threatens vaccine exports to the UK.
Classy.
No doubt the pyscho contingent will be along shortly urging remaining vaccine supply to be used for remoaners only.

 

[editor]

Be proud Brexiteers.

The free trade deal means there are no quotas or tariffs on the goods traded between the EU and UK, but that doesn't mean there are no extra taxes or costs.
Since 1 January the UK is no longer part of the EU VAT regime, so the UK government is applying VAT (sales tax) at 20% on goods from the EU, explains Gary Rycroft, a partner at Joseph A Jones & Co Solicitors.

Brexit parcel price shock: 'I had to pay £30 for a gift'

It's not just shoppers facing surprise costs when EU parcels arrive, but what is behind the charges?

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[ska invita]

Coronavirus: Vaccine supply fears grow amid EU export threat

The EU calls for "fair" distribution after vaccine companies cut back on pledged supplies.

www.bbc.co.uk

The EU threatens vaccine exports to the UK.
Classy.
No doubt the pyscho contingent will be along shortly urging remaining vaccine supply to be used for remoaners only.

I think what is happening is there's a shortage of vaccine and its unclear who will get what when.
That means the UK may not get what it expected at the time it expected.
The use of the word "threaten" seems a bit UKIPy to me. Lots of people have orders in, its a question of fair distribution with the limited supply.
The UK has had more than most other countries so far.
This is an awkward situation, but I don't see any reason why it should be Britain First
?
Or have I misunderstood something here?

 

[stdP]

Or have I misunderstood something here?

No-one's quite got the full story on this yet so I think it's a little early to jump to conclusions but it seems a bit tit-for-tat; it's come off the back of Astra Zeneca saying they can't meet the projected demand. EU wanted answers as to why, and wasn't satisfied with them (and this is the main part we don't know), so have threatened to introduce control on export not just of the AZ vaccine (being manufactured in Belgium but not actually ratified for use in the EU yet) but also any others.

EU threatens to block Covid vaccine exports amid AstraZeneca shortfall

Bloc may receive only half of purchased 100m doses in first quarter of the year

www.theguardian.com

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I don't think anybody is going to emerge from the sharp-elbowed race for vaccine supplies in moral credit, tbh. UK, EU, or anyone else.

 

[Roadkill]

Coronavirus: Vaccine supply fears grow amid EU export threat

The EU calls for "fair" distribution after vaccine companies cut back on pledged supplies.

www.bbc.co.uk

The EU threatens vaccine exports to the UK.
Classy.
No doubt the pyscho contingent will be along shortly urging remaining vaccine supply to be used for remoaners only.

What's got into you? Your posts read like the tweets of some angry red-faced bloke with a Union flag avatar.

 

[gosub]

I think what is happening is there's a shortage of vaccine and its unclear who will get what when.
That means the UK may not get what it expected at the time it expected.
The use of the word "threaten" seems a bit UKIPy to me. Lots of people have orders in, its a question of fair distribution with the limited supply.
The UK has had more than most other countries so far.
This is an awkward situation, but I don't see any reason why it should be Britain First
?
Or have I misunderstood something here?

Cos the EU hasn't even fucking cleared the Astra Zenica one,

 

[toblerone3]

Oh no my coat which I bought online from a Canadian website last month has been caught up in the Brexit shennigans and I am now going to be charged unspecified amounts of customs duty and other charges. I'm surprised that this affects goods ordered from Canada. While it has passed through distribution centres in Frankfurt and Cologne, it was ordered by me in London from a Canadian website. So how do I get caught up in all of this. I didn't asked for it to be shipped to Germany.

 

[prunus]

Oh no my coat which I bought online from a Canadian website last month has been caught up in the Brexit shennigans and I am now going to be charged unspecified amounts of customs duty and other charges. I'm surprised that this affects goods ordered from Canada. While it has passed through distribution centres in Frankfurt and Cologne, it was ordered by me in London from a Canadian website. So how do I get caught up in all of this. I didn't asked for it to be shipped to Germany.

You used to be able to order from Canada under the arrangements the EU has with Canada. The Uk left the EU so left those arrangements, and hasn’t made any new arrangements, so default customs rules apply.

Presumably the company you ordered from had set up or used a centralised EU distribution hub for its own efficiency for all EU-bound goods, which would have worked well while the Uk was in the EU. They may make new arrangements for a UK hub at some point. But probably not until we have some trading agreement with Canada in place, in case it becomes prohibitive. Who knows.

 

[The39thStep]

No-one's quite got the full story on this yet so I think it's a little early to jump to conclusions but it seems a bit tit-for-tat; it's come off the back of Astra Zeneca saying they can't meet the projected demand. EU wanted answers as to why, and wasn't satisfied with them (and this is the main part we don't know), so have threatened to introduce control on export not just of the AZ vaccine (being manufactured in Belgium but not actually ratified for use in the EU yet) but also any others.

EU threatens to block Covid vaccine exports amid AstraZeneca shortfall

Bloc may receive only half of purchased 100m doses in first quarter of the year

www.theguardian.com

Fair to say that there is disquiet amongst many EU countries about vaccine roll out and supply through the EU procurement plan especially as non EU states like the UK and Switzerland have purchased large amounts .Italy threatened to sue, Germany ordered additional outside the vaccines and Hungary has apparently approved the Russian Sputnik vaccine and is negotiating purchase in addition to the EU process. The German minister who has called for vaccine export certificates is obviously playing to his home audience.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Fair to say that there is disquiet amongst many EU countries about vaccine roll out and supply through the EU procurement plan especially as non EU states like the UK and Switzerland have purchased large amounts .Italy threatened to sue, Germany ordered additional outside the vaccines and Hungary has apparently approved the Russian Sputnik vaccine and is negotiating purchase in addition to the EU process. The German minister who has called for vaccine export certificates is obviously playing to his home audience.

Like most of Europe's response to Covid, a bit of a mess. Lots of failures at lots of levels, including the EU level.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

AstraZeneca vaccine is mostly made in the UK, not in Belgium, Pfizer's is a Belgium thing.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Oh no my coat which I bought online from a Canadian website last month has been caught up in the Brexit shennigans and I am now going to be charged unspecified amounts of customs duty and other charges. I'm surprised that this affects goods ordered from Canada. While it has passed through distribution centres in Frankfurt and Cologne, it was ordered by me in London from a Canadian website. So how do I get caught up in all of this. I didn't asked for it to be shipped to Germany.

You can bet your bollocks it wasn't made in Canada though. Unless you've spent >£1000 on the thing it is odds on for manufacture in Bangladesh or similar, with materials shipped in from around the world, then the finished product shipped to Canada, then to Germany or wherever, then the UK. Really don't need to worry about touring bands and fucked incomes, the planet's about to die anyway.

 

[magneze]

AstraZeneca vaccine is mostly made in the UK, not in Belgium, Pfizer's is a Belgium thing.

It'll be interesting to see how the US reacts. Pfizer is a US company.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

It'll be interesting to see how the US reacts. Pfizer is a US company.

Would imagine they have a plant in the US too. Pfizer came up with Viagra, but that was developed in Kent. All these things are pretty global.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Be proud Brexiteers.

Brexit parcel price shock: 'I had to pay £30 for a gift'

It's not just shoppers facing surprise costs when EU parcels arrive, but what is behind the charges?

www.bbc.co.uk

The company you buy off in the EU should deduct the VAT at source, in nearly all countries it is the same or more than in the UK so there is no loss, unless as in the article you are being mugged off.

 

[Raheem]

The company you buy off in the EU should deduct the VAT at source, in nearly all countries it is the same or more than in the UK so there is no loss, unless as in the article you are being mugged off.

I paid tax on a second hand cd on eBay from Germany about a week ago. I don't know the ins and outs of why. Perhaps nothing has changed except the tax is now stated, whereas before it was just the sellers business. But something somewhere is different.

 

[Flavour]

This is interesting.

EU citizens offered financial incentives to leave UK

European nationals added to voluntary returns scheme, which can include flights and up to £2,000 for resettlement

www.theguardian.com

Wonder how many will take up the offer? Not many I'd expect if they have a job in the UK that pays a lot more than they could expect to earn in a similar role in their home country. Also, gutted for anyone who left in 2016-2020 and missed out on a free two grand!

 

[Flavour]

I posted this on the other Brexit thread too but actually that one should just die a death really as transition period is over.

This is interesting.


EU citizens offered financial incentives to leave UK
European nationals added to voluntary returns scheme, which can include flights and up to £2,000 for resettlement

www.theguardian.com

Wonder how many will take up the offer? Not many I'd expect if they have a job in the UK that pays a lot more than they could expect to earn in a similar role in their home country. Also, gutted for anyone who left in 2016-2020 and missed out on a free two grand!