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The Ashes 2009

Do u think he'll be in the side at the oval? Seriously?

I think you'll see Trott in there.
If they want to play Trott, they have to drop Bell imo.

After such an abject failure, I actually think they won't make any changes at all. They'll give the same team the chance to make amends.
 
In 2005 we had 3 batters going for 2 places - kp, bell and thorpe and if thorpe hadn't retired, knowing he was ready, we'd have thought, it's ok to drop or if they get injured as we know exactly who's going to come in. We can't say that now. Any change would be a gamble of sorts.

That said, from when he's in flow (not just against the windies) you can see he is a good bat, certainly one who's good to watch.

Oh and other batsmen getting out, looking loose.. KP
 
Comments like yours just make me think you don't understand the game at all. Berate him for his poor shot in the first innings, fine, but to lay into him after getting a bad decision first ball is just ignorant. You are not someone who knows much about cricket.

I expect you know sooo much about it don't ya? :rolleyes:

I didn't even see it, I just went on someone else's description on here but he's been shite the whole series and that's why I berate him. If it was a poor decision, fine, but you can't deny his poor showing throughtout. It's no use moaning over umpire decisions either, we've had enough go our way this series, swings and roundabouts and all that.

I just took exception to your abuse that's all, especially when others were stating how shite he was not two pages ago and you didn't say a thing.
 
I thought the old comment is that if you are out first ball, you're not in long enough to tell if you're in good or bad form? :hmm:
 
I thought the old comment is that if you are out first ball, you're not in long enough to tell if you're in good or bad form? :hmm:
Yes. Far worse to scratch around for a few overs and get a horrible-looking half dozen. He was out first ball to a bad decision. You cannot judge anything from that.
 
I'm afraid I'm judging it from his other contributions.

He just does not look a Test 3 at this point in time.

I'll edit this to add that I appreciate we ran into all sorts of bother chopping and changing after poor results, but I've seen little to suggest he should be at 3.
 
i'd want to mix the openers up by putting the right handed Key in, drop Strauss to 3 so he's not rushed again like friday and drop Bell.. edit: you're right mattie, a 'safer' drop is Bell, Bopara needs faith I think
 
Don't forget people, flintoff could be back for the final test, aint all over yet!:cool: The oval could be a classic if the england batsmen wake up for once.
 
If Flintoff's crocked, the dilemma isn't the batting, it's the bowling. Got to go with five bowlers as they have to win. What do you do with a problem like Harmison? Especially as the Oval is probably his most likely ground.
 
Bopara went for a golden duck?? fuck him, he needs to be sealed in concrete and dumped in the north sea, the useless fuck :mad:

I think this quote should apply to Ian Bellend. Totally and utterly useless and spineless. I love how he grew some bum fluff to make him look more macho for the game. Just like his bum fluff, ian Bell just doesnt cut it.
 
Christ I'm glad I've been ignoring this match all day. I see we've brought on Jimmy as night watchman, something which traditionally happens before all your batsmen get out :hmm:
 
Great to wake up on a crisp and sunny sunday to see our team in the box seat:cool:The english one once again floundering in a sea of self pity and loathing lol lol.GLOAT:D GLOAT :D GLOAT :D

ETA might have to bring in a couple more Sth Africans ay boys,cant seem to find any englishmen to stand up
 
I think at the end of it all this has been a rubbish performance, Aus have bowled really well as a unit, too many of our batsmen are beset by nerves and the plans we've laid have eiether been flawed (Harmy, bang it in) or not carried out very well, Jimmy bowling loads of inswingers as a stock delivery, not a surprise one for example. Then again, it's been coming - A side that could leave out Stu Clark for so long isn't a terrible side and in a 5 test series it's going to fluctuate back and forth and Aus have nearly got a win that clearly they deserve, if nothing else for the fact that they have had the stronger batsmen pretty much throughout the series.

We go into the oval knowing that a few of our batsmen are playing for their places and hoping that our bowlers get it right as they have done in some of the previous matches and that it will be poised at 1-1 in the final game. Can't get better than that for a final match.

Of course I wanted a win, but to be honest, put this match out the window and we don't deserve to be 2-0 up, so lets call this match karma and go in all square. They've clicked, we've been terrible, next week, well, things can be different.

We havn't lost it yet either. lol.
 
I'm sure Andrew Symonds (born in Brum) could come in for England for the Oval test and help win back the Ashes. It could be his final fingers in the air thank-you to cricket Australia.
 
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