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The Ashes 2009

I would say it's still too close to call. Impossible to say what a par score would be on the wicket without seeing what the Aussies are able to do on it. Would be nice for the last few wickets to put on another 20-30 runs tomorrow morning. Putting on a night watchman to defend Broad was fairly bizzare - but nightwatchmen decisions seem to get increasingly strange.

Ideal situation for England is to play out for over an hour and then have a short and awkward bowling session at them before lunch. I also really wish we had gone for Rashid - but there you go.
 
Idaho said:
Putting on a night watchman to defend Broad was fairly bizzare - but nightwatchmen decisions seem to get increasingly strange.
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particularly england's nightwatchman decisions, they're bizarre. as if they get to the last half hour of play and they want anderson to get the opportunity to extend his record.
 
mrkikiet said:
particularly england's nightwatchman decisions, they're bizarre. as if they get to the last half hour of play and they want anderson to get the opportunity to extend his record.
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No nightwatchman antics were ever more bizarre than this.

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And dropped afterwards as well. He was just about to set off telling Blowers about it earlier today. That was a commentary combination.
 
With no history, it's hard to predict what the Cardiff wicket will do on the final two days. What this means is that we can't tell whether this is a good start by the Poms or not. I guess we will just put on a heap of runs tomorrow to put the match out of reach. And then watch the Poms struggle on days four and five.
 
DuckQuack'sEcho said:
With no history, it's hard to predict what the Cardiff wicket will do on the final two days. What this means is that we can't tell whether this is a good start by the Poms or not. I guess we will just put on a heap of runs tomorrow to put the match out of reach. And then watch the Poms struggle on days four and five.
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350 is a okay score on this wicket, it will turn a lot by day 5, plus it was seaming and swinging, saying that it's a slow deck. Good toss to win though imo.

The last 10 1st class games at Cardiff the team who won the toss and batted has not lost in those ten games, there have been 7 draws though, but that is just 4 day cricket avg score batting 1st 333, avg score batting 2nd 226. In this period of games, 150 wickets fell to pace and 86 to spin.
 
Azertyioup said:
350 is a okay score on this wicket, it will turn a lot by day 5, plus it was seaming and swinging, saying that it's a slow deck. Good toss to win though imo.

The last 10 1st class games at Cardiff the team who won the toss and batted has not lost in those ten games, there have been 7 draws though, but that is just 4 day cricket avg score batting 1st 333, avg score batting 2nd 226. In this period of games, 150 wickets fell to pace and 86 to spin.
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Yes but we are talking about Glamorgan here. Very hard to use any defeat of theirs in any stats cos they would lose if they had 3 innings!
 
Fancy the draw a fair bit now - plus the forecast is for showers on Sat and at least overcast either side. Hope Torchwood blowing up didn't trouble them. Currently on Betfair:

England: 2.9
Australia: 4.0
Draw: 2.44
 
Azertyioup said:
The last 10 1st class games at Cardiff the team who won the toss and batted has not lost in those ten games, there have been 7 draws though, but that is just 4 day cricket avg score batting 1st 333, avg score batting 2nd 226. In this period of games, 150 wickets fell to pace and 86 to spin.
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God I love cricket stats. Most deceptive load of horseshit around. (no comment on you, just how useless stats like these are)
 
As the old adage goes I'll make my mind up when both sides have batted on it, but it looks a result wicket, some turn on day one.

Very impressed with Siddle and Hilf, and if Jimmeh can get the ball to talk all day it should be interesting.


Pretty even day and great to see all the Welshies ripping into the Aussies :)

Those two old 'uns singing Jerusalem whilst holing the Welsh flag was :cool:

Great start to the Ashes, more of the same please.
 
DuckQuack'sEcho said:
With no history, it's hard to predict what the Cardiff wicket will do on the final two days. What this means is that we can't tell whether this is a good start by the Poms or not. I guess we will just put on a heap of runs tomorrow to put the match out of reach. And then watch the Poms struggle on days four and five.
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I think if Australia match or exceed our first innings score then they will win. If they don't, then it's England's or the draw.
 
clearing up now, patches of blue sky.

the pitch down here is, was and always will be a pudding.

Its the grave yard of fast bowlers. the best quick bowler we had was Waqar Younis and the reason he was successful down here was that he pitched the bowl right up in the block hole. Speed through the air. (and his reverse swing)

the pitch will turn, but it will turn slowly.

The eventual and inevitable uneven bounce will be more of a threat.

Bowlers who vary their speed tend to do well.

Essentially its a grafters pitch.
 
Idaho said:
I think if Australia match or exceed our first innings score then they will win. If they don't, then it's England's or the draw.
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i think aus have this already tbh. 400 would give us a fighting chance but i don't think we're capable of it. i fully expect aus to exceed our first innings total and i'm not sure we have the belief that would see us come back at them with a great second innings.

that said if none of the above comes true i will be extremely happy :D
 
Discordia said:
Also known as yet another pitch to kill Test Cricket. Why do they prepare this rubbish?
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Every year there is the same complaints that the wicket is either too flat or to 'result orientated'.


Look, on another note. Look, it's Jason Gillespie. Look, Dizzy, why do you have to say "Look" at the beginning of every sentence?
 
why denigrate Dizzy,he is a top bloke,has a habit of saying"look"So FUCKING what?Talk about cricket please.

It will,imo be a draw.The signs are there for me.Even from Aus i can see that pitch being a minefield days 4 and 5.Poms will make 350-370,we will make 440 by end of day 3= fizzer

(hides crystal ball)
 
liquidlunch said:
why denigrate Dizzy,he is a top bloke,has a habit of saying"look"So FUCKING what?Talk about cricket please.

It will,imo be a draw.The signs are there for me.Even from Aus i can see that pitch being a minefield days 4 and 5.Poms will make 350-370,we will make 440 by end of day 3= fizzer

(hides crystal ball)
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Look, I don't mind him. I always remember watching him bowl thinking "thank fuck McGrath isn't bowling" :D
 
Bounderies all over the shop from the tail-enders and Blowers is laughing away, I'm in Test Match Special Heaven! Splendid effort this morning.
 
Gillespie in 97 was a great bowler.. makes some interesting points and has a recent perspective on Australian cricket. Him and Blowers last night was good radio.

I'd rather listen to Gillespie, Chappell and Maxwell and get some Aussie voices than the none that are on sky. Dullness and golf clubs.
 
Look, they are getting a right pasting this morning.

I wish i were in the crowd to give their fielders some friendly advice :)
 
Very inspiring to see the Aussies having problems bowling out our tail-enders. 423-8, I can't remember such a positive start to an Ashes series.
 
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