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The Ashes 2009

I'd love to see Lee fit for some of this series. Cracking bowler and I think if England don't have to face him then it takes something away from them winning anything against the aussies.

Lee is massively overrated dunno where you've got that from.

His record in England is Broad-esque.

I hope he does play.
 
God, that article!

They really are the worst losers in the world!

Great winners, mind you.

I guess it's because they're so used to winning. We're used to losing so we can afford to be good losers.
 
Yeah - I mean their press etc.

I remember watching the Rugby World Cup final in a bar in Wuhan. That was a great final, most of the foreigners in there were supporting Australia , with just a couple of other English people cheering us on, and the Aussie fans were getting well into it, but as soon as we won, they all started muttering "Well it's only our 4th favourite sport, so it's not that important" and so on :D
 
Yeah - I mean their press etc.

I remember watching the Rugby World Cup final in a bar in Wuhan. That was a great final, most of the foreigners in there were supporting Australia , with just a couple of other English people cheering us on, and the Aussie fans were getting well into it, but as soon as we won, they all started muttering "Well it's only our 4th favourite sport, so it's not that important" and so on :D

:D
 
Dont worry mate,R.P.will give your not a few nightmares before this series is over:DIf Rudy Kutzen umpires another test i wont watch it for fear of kicking the plasma in:p
 
Yeah - I mean their press etc.

I remember watching the Rugby World Cup final in a bar in Wuhan. That was a great final, most of the foreigners in there were supporting Australia , with just a couple of other English people cheering us on, and the Aussie fans were getting well into it, but as soon as we won, they all started muttering "Well it's only our 4th favourite sport, so it's not that important" and so on :D
Size of our poolulation versus Englands etc - we should make a whingers list and see how many we spot over the next month.
 
Fine during the match, but once the game is over, it shows a horrible lack of sportsmanship. Anyone booing Ponting there is the cunt, not him.

Really, it fucks me off that people don't know how to support their team without being a wanker about it.


The way he treats umpires is a disgrace.

Fuck the cunt.

See Hussey for how to behave when you get a bad 'un.
 
Dont worry mate,R.P.will give your not a few nightmares before this series is over:DIf Rudy Kutzen umpires another test i wont watch it for fear of kicking the plasma in:p

I'm going to be honest here and say that the absolute last thing I ever want to see is for England to play out three tedious draws. It's such an English thing to try and do after securing a good victory. I'd rather it was one apiece in the next two and then we lost the final test in the final over of the series (and hence a draw so you kept the trophy) than see us draw all three.

I know many won't agree with me, but I get fucking sick of the English thing of 'Ooh, we've had one good result, now we'll cling to it'. As soon as it's over it's time for the next game and the next start.

It's plagued English sport for years. Capello realises this in the football which is why I rate him so much.

Can we get on with the next test in the cricket, I wonder.

I hope so.
 
Size of our poolulation versus Englands etc - we should make a whingers list and see how many we spot over the next month.

That one can easily be countered by pointing out that the Australian government invests about 20 times as much per head as ours does. In fact, considering how poorly invested in sport is in Britain, I really don't think we do that badly. France and Australia invest something like 12 quid per head where we invest 50p ( I read that a while back, would like to get it verified). And considering we do try and compete in more actual sports which are global (the only truly global sport Australia takes seriously is cricket), I don't think we do too badly really.

And we can point out that they have more obese people than us now. :cool:
 
The only time we'd do anything like that would be if we went to The Oval still 1-0 or 2-1 up; we played the extra batsman (Collingwood) in '05 in that situation.

But tbh you can't really play the Aussies with a "playing for a draw" mindset and Eng realise that.
 
That one can easily be countered by pointing out that the Australian government invests about 20 times as much per head as ours does. In fact, considering how poorly invested in sport is in Britain, I really don't think we do that badly. France and Australia invest something like 12 quid per head where we invest 50p ( I read that a while back, would like to get it verified). And considering we do try and compete in more actual sports which are global (the only truly global sport Australia takes seriously is cricket), I don't think we do too badly really.

And we can point out that they have more obese people than us now. :cool:

I'd be interested to hear how that number is computed, if true. I get subsidised tennis lessons which I gather is part-funded by the local council, perhaps the calculation of level of subsidy considers only central government support?
 
I'd be interested to hear how that number is computed, if true. I get subsidised tennis lessons which I gather is part-funded by the local council, perhaps the calculation of level of subsidy considers only central government support?

Yeah - take it with a pinch of salt. It's something I read ages ago in the Guardian or something. I just remember 50p per head in Britain and 12-13 quid in France and something similar in Oz.

Thing is, in Britain we do actually have a lot of open space. People complain there's nowhere to go to play sports, there is, but the facilities aren't always great.

I wonder what will happen in East London after the Olympics. Will there be lots of affordable, good local facilities for people to use?
 
Yeah - take it with a pinch of salt. It's something I read ages ago in the Guardian or something. I just remember 50p per head in Britain and 12-13 quid in France and something similar in Oz.

Thing is, in Britain we do actually have a lot of open space. People complain there's nowhere to go to play sports, there is, but the facilities aren't always great.

I wonder what will happen in East London after the Olympics. Will there be lots of affordable, good local facilities for people to use?

Not sure when you read that but the lotteyr and olympic funding have changed things beyond all recognition. The aussies were moaning after the cycyling team cleaned up in beijing abou the funding UK riders/sports in general recieve now.
 
Not sure when you read that but the lotteyr and olympic funding have changed things beyond all recognition. The aussies were moaning after the cycyling team cleaned up in beijing abou the funding UK riders/sports in general recieve now.

Yeah - it was a long time ago, about 2001 IIRC. I'd say British sport has improved a lot since then, so yeah, it's not really surprising that funding has improved.
 
(the only truly global sport Australia takes seriously is cricket),

Erm not quite true:rolleyes:We are very serious about swimming(several world champs)Hockey(world champs)Netball(world champs)Track and field(world champs)Diving(olympic medals)Tennis(world champs)tiddleee winks and fucking snap,any sport you can imagine there would be someone here willing to have a crack.
Our climate lends itself to being outdoors a lot plus we have open spaces to set up a sport to play ie beach cricket or tennis for fun.Aussies are always telling the kids to feck off outside(noisy bastards)
All of our elite sportsmen and women are always holding coaching clinics around the country when released from international competition.Its part of repaying the Aust Institute of Sport for their development as juniors.
Its good to grow these future sportstars in a positive way .
AAAAAUUUUUSSSSSTTTTTRRRRRAAAAIIIIILLLLLIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAA:cool::cool:

eta cycling too(how did i forget that)
 
I'm not sure I really believe the 'climate lends itself to being outdoors' thing. We have lots of open space and the weather is hardly 'trap yourself indoors' weather in Britain - in fact it ought to be perfect for sports, not too hot not too cold.

I think it's more to do with investment.
 
What a day. Even having a blown-out tyre while hurtling down the A303 at 75mph couldn't take the shine off it :eek: :D

I do hope Straus doesn't play it safe in decisions in the subsequent games. Our success in 2005 was due to our aggression and confidence.

As for that Strauss catch. I don't think the tv shows everything. He may have taken it, it may have hit the ground, he may know one way or the other he may not. He appealled and it was given. You ALWAYS get a few decisions in test matches that go like this.
 
We seem to think we have to be competitive in all global sports, whereas Australia don't really play football (yes of course they do, but it hasn't got the same draw), France don't play cricket etc., so we spread ourselves very thinly in comparison to any other nation. Football is too football, given we've only won one trophy.

Aren't they trying to convert 'failed' sportspeople into volleyballers and handballers for 2012? As Harmy won't be centrally contracted he's been contacted for the 'running down a hill haphazardly waving your arms' competition as has Johnson by sport australia.
 
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